It seems important to keep focussed on the “what” and not get prematurely 
distracted by the “how”, but I had a guilty thought about implementation 
details.

It is that we could keep tiddlywiki.com <http://tiddlywiki.com/> being a full 
TiddlyWiki but cunningly disguise it, essentially by displaying the contents of 
a HelloThere tiddler full screen. The motivation is that keeping it as a 
TiddlyWiki would enable us to retain our existing interactive search.

We could include a way to switch to the standard theme, and perhaps keep that 
setting in local storage so that regular visitors can choose to skip the 
landing page.

(I’m thinking of a combination of the single tiddler mode discussed in 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3412 
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3412> and a new mechanism for 
switching the between different page templates).

So the question here, perhaps, is to confirm that the concern with the site 
being a TiddlyWiki is that the visual presentation is overly complex for casual 
visitors? And not, for instance, the size of the page? There’s no question we 
could clone a classic landing page like the examples Anne-Laure quoted as an 
alternate page template (the Notion home page seems particularly relevant).

Best wishes

Jeremy.



> On 20 Apr 2020, at 13:58, Anne-Laure Le Cunff <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> @Jeremy - I'd be happy to help. Shouldn't take too much work to use a 
> template to create a static html/css page but would be great to have 
> everyone's input.
> 
> @Yoni - Welcome to TW! Also want to clarify that I agree docs should stay on 
> TiddlyWiki itself, just that they should not be the first thing you see when 
> you go to Tiddlywiki.com <http://tiddlywiki.com/> :)
> 
> 
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:52:59 PM UTC+1, Yoni Balkind wrote:
> I'm a new user (thanks to Anne-Laure's promotion of TW) and I have to say I'm 
> really struggling to get going.. 
> 
> But I'm sympathetic to the challenge of creating good help guides for an open 
> source project. Perhaps I will volunteer to help a bit when I'm better at 
> using TiddlyWinks. 
> 
> Some of the quick wins that I think would help:
> 
> - consider keeping a curated list of unofficial tutorials. You can store this 
> on a tiddler on tiddlywiki.com <http://tiddlywiki.com/> and it should link to 
> youtube videos and blog posts that your community has created. Eg 
> Anne-Laure's recent post on on her blog. 
> 
> - consider separating your how-to documentation from other types of 
> documentation. This concept is really nicely explained here 
> https://documentation.divio.com/introduction/ 
> <https://documentation.divio.com/introduction/>. As a new user I just want to 
> see how-to's. 
> 
> - consider migrating away from google groups in my opinion. Perhaps use 
> reddit or slack as the official discussion channel. Just a personal view but 
> Google Groups has an outdated feel
> 
> You are doing lots right though. I personally think you are right to host 
> docs on TiddlyWiki itself. Its good that you are active on Twitter and that 
> you engage with the community there.
> 
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