Jeremy, It's not just that the visual presentation is overly complex. Using TW is also complex for non-programming newbies, i.e the learning curve is pretty steep.
20 Apr 2020, 17:08 by [email protected]: > It seems important to keep focussed on the “what” and not get prematurely > distracted by the “how”, but I had a guilty thought about implementation > details. > > It is that we could keep > tiddlywiki.com <http://tiddlywiki.com>> being a > full TiddlyWiki but cunningly disguise it, essentially by displaying the > contents of a HelloThere tiddler full screen. The motivation is that keeping > it as a TiddlyWiki would enable us to retain our existing interactive search. > > We could include a way to switch to the standard theme, and perhaps keep that > setting in local storage so that regular visitors can choose to skip the > landing page. > > (I’m thinking of a combination of the single tiddler mode discussed in > > https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3412> and a new mechanism for > switching the between different page templates). > > So the question here, perhaps, is to confirm that the concern with the site > being a TiddlyWiki is that the visual presentation is overly complex for > casual visitors? And not, for instance, the size of the page? There’s no > question we could clone a classic landing page like the examples Anne-Laure > quoted as an alternate page template (the Notion home page seems particularly > relevant). > > Best wishes > > Jeremy. > > > > >> On 20 Apr 2020, at 13:58, Anne-Laure Le Cunff <>> [email protected]>> > >> wrote: >> >> @Jeremy - I'd be happy to help. Shouldn't take too much work to use a >> template to create a static html/css page but would be great to have >> everyone's input. >> >> @Yoni - Welcome to TW! Also want to clarify that I agree docs should stay on >> TiddlyWiki itself, just that they should not be the first thing you see when >> you go to>> >> Tiddlywiki.com <http://tiddlywiki.com/>>> >> :) >> >> >> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:52:59 PM UTC+1, Yoni Balkind wrote: >> >>> I'm a new user (thanks to Anne-Laure's promotion of TW) and I have to say >>> I'm really struggling to get going.. >>> >>> But I'm sympathetic to the challenge of creating good help guides for an >>> open source project. Perhaps I will volunteer to help a bit when I'm better >>> at using TiddlyWinks. >>> >>> Some of the quick wins that I think would help: >>> >>> - consider keeping a curated list of unofficial tutorials. You can store >>> this on a tiddler on>>> >>> tiddlywiki.com <http://tiddlywiki.com/>>>> >>> >>> and it should link to youtube videos and blog posts that your community >>> has created. Eg Anne-Laure's recent post on on her blog. >>> >>> - consider separating your how-to documentation from other types of >>> documentation. This concept is really nicely explained here >>> >>> https://documentation.>>> divio.com/introduction/>>> . As a new user I just >>> want to see how-to's. >>> >>> - consider migrating away from google groups in my opinion. Perhaps use >>> reddit or slack as the official discussion channel. Just a personal view >>> but Google Groups has an outdated feel >>> >>> You are doing lots right though. I personally think you are right to host >>> docs on TiddlyWiki itself. Its good that you are active on Twitter and that >>> you engage with the community there. >>> >> >> -->> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to>> >> [email protected]>> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit>> >> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/3aa875ab-1a56-40ae-b9b5-d7b3aae24622%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/3aa875ab-1a56-40ae-b9b5-d7b3aae24622%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>>> >> . >> > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > [email protected]> . > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/B5864D70-B307-4D07-850C-D88DFD87982B%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/B5864D70-B307-4D07-850C-D88DFD87982B%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/M5NFHj2--3-2%40tutamail.com.
