I notice all the links you include here are for the static site. That makes 
me wonder if you're
using Google to look up info about TW. The search box on TiddlyWiki.com is 
very effective.
For instance, if you had typed "node install" into the box, you would have 
gotten only 3
links in the top part of the search, including "Installing TiddlyWiki on 
node.js".

For sharing those links, you can use the permalink option from the 
specified tiddler.

The problem with updating documents on TW is that the process is so drawn 
out. You
have to install github, fork tiddlywiki.com, clone the fork locally. Then 
make a branch
with the right name structure (which, ironically, is unclear in the 
documentation), 
then make your changes, then push your changes, then
make a pull request. Then wait while a variety of people who have never 
been 
concerned enough to make a PR themselves on the topic try to pick apart 
everything 
you've written. It's not exactly Wordpress or Wikipedia convenience. On the 
last part,
where you're text is being flame grilled over a hot fire, my feeling is 
that documentation is
not code and doesn't need the same level of scrutiny. It should be 
submitted rapid-fire,
and if someone doesn't like it, they can submit their own PR to amend it.

Two years ago, if I had seen your mention of the missing part of the 
commands, I probably would
have been submitting a PR within a half hour. Now, not so much.


On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 11:14:32 AM UTC-7, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> Just want to illustrate how hard it is to get started with an example that 
> just happened to me. Someone asked me how to generate a static website with 
> TiddlyWiki.
>
> I'm still working on my tutorial, so I looked in the documentation for 
> something to send them and here are the pages I stumbled upon in order:
>
>    1. Generating Static Sites with TiddlyWiki 
>    
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Generating%2520Static%2520Sites%2520with%2520TiddlyWiki.html>
>  - 
>    this doesn't mention Node.js anywhere except vaguely in a tag, so I need 
> to 
>    also tell them how to run the Node.js version first
>    2. Awesome, there's a page about TiddlyWiki on Node.js 
>    <https://tiddlywiki.com/static/TiddlyWiki%2520on%2520Node.js.html>! Ha 
>    doesn't say how to install it. It says "for more information, check one of 
>    these 21 links"
>    3. Maybe Using TiddlyWiki on Node.js 
>    
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Using%2520TiddlyWiki%2520on%2520Node.js.html>? 
>    No luck, going back to TiddlyWiki on Node.js 
>    <https://tiddlywiki.com/static/TiddlyWiki%2520on%2520Node.js.html>...
>    4. Clicking on the very generic link called "Node.js" actually brings 
>    me to the page Installing TiddlyWiki on Node.js 
>    
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Installing%2520TiddlyWiki%2520on%2520Node.js.html>,
>  
>    hooray! 
>    5. Now back to Generating Static Sites with TiddlyWiki 
>    
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/static/Generating%2520Static%2520Sites%2520with%2520TiddlyWiki.html>...
>  
>    Let's try these commands. Why don't they work? Ha, I need to add 
>    "tiddlywiki" in front of each of them, but it doesn't say.
>
> Going to publish a tutorial to answer that specific query soon but I think 
> it shows how hard it is to navigate for a beginner and how a proper landing 
> page may be able to address some of the most common questions :)
>
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 5:37:57 PM UTC+1, Anne-Laure Le Cunff wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeremy, do you have an example of what such a full-screen Tiddler 
>> would look like?
>>
>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 5:10:22 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Peter
>>>
>>> On 20 Apr 2020, at 16:42, 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's not just that the visual presentation is overly complex. Using TW 
>>> is also complex for non-programming newbies, i.e the learning curve is 
>>> pretty steep.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is in the context of the question of whether the homepage at 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com should appear to be the standard TiddlyWiki 
>>> interface, or should look more like https://notion.so.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>

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