Thank you for the warm welcome everyone and your responses! 😊 ––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––
First of all, thanks to *Anne-Laure*, for republishing the TiddlyWiki on ProductHunt, where it caught my attention and then invited me to this community! –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– This is one of the best collection of Tiddlywiki resources on the net. *Mohmmad*, thank you for sharing this resource, it will definitely come in handy considering the key features and further into development. –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– *Tony,* thank you for the inputs, your interest and open mind! You are already mentioning bunch of great points: > > - TiddlyWiki can already do or be many things > > > - This presents a dilemma, because how do you set a basic standard > look for a chameleon? > > This is why I am so excited about, it's super powerful, but somehow it seems a bit overwhelming, with all the features shouting for the importance. The tool could be as blank as it can be, while displaying first possible actions, and then introducing complexity as you engage within a context. > - TiddlyWiki is the answer to so many questions, but which question > are you trying to answer? > > > - There are already innovative tiddlywiki layouts like a trello look > alike, the Murri plugin and much more > > As I see it, TW should be as it is – super powerful personal notebook, with a possibility to quickly and simply publish static website, as if possible (don't know much about it) a collaborative writing tool. Some of the things that I see are missing: 1. Simple and intuitive interface that feels nice and simple to sit in front of every morning (e.g. Bear app, Notion, Typora) 2. Making sure that the notes are as modular and interconnected as possible with backlinks etc. (yet still simple). (RoamResearch achieves that quite well, but it can be better) 3. Yet, NONE of those powerful ones are free and personal tools for the new digital knowledge age. I believe everyone has a right to their own personal digital knowledge management, publishing and collaboration. I've seen some of TW themes, but it feels more like as a surface redesign, but underlying issues are there. Yes, some corrections on usability and some nice features like sidebar are there, but many things like fonts, icons, animations, white space feels odd, as most importantly, not much is improved in the usability of editing. Also, obviously I haven't seen enough! Please share if something minimal exist already. I have a vision for such a solution I would be happy to share if you want > to consider taking it on. I would love to hear your vision if you are willing to share! Both on the strategy and design, let's collaborate. We can discuss here + draft a more structured google docs + prioritize tasks on Trello + share the actual design vision and comment on Figma prototype. One way I would like to see the recent discussions evolve is a bit like how > developers may use wordpress as the back end and write their own front end. Could you explain a bit more what do you mean here? When it comes to static site generation, there are great mechanisms in > tiddlywiki to do this already as no doubt people see, but to make it really > powerful we need to improve and support the workflow and templates used to > do this. I really want to dig deeper into the current state of art of TW's static site generation. It must be as simple as in any other SSG, but even simplier! I like what Publii <https://getpublii.com/> is doing. You just write you site visually and then publish to GitHub Pages or SFTP as a static site with one click (+ first time simple settup). Tiddlywiki as a platform, Software Development Kit, Personal Productivity > tool, site generator, database.... interface design ... is almost infinite. > > I would like to see a responsive theme that contains elements that come > into use only if given content and obeys a set of rules that allows almost > any design structure, with default that result in what we currently see, > but a small set of changes transforms it. That's how I see it too! Simple, responsive, contextual, prioritised. There should no unnecessary switching "modes", viewing and editing should feel as one coherent flow. And all the power of the tool can come into the right place, but it should to be prioritised. –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– *Mat *good idea! Is it possible somehow to tag Jeremy here so he can see this post? Otherwise I will try to find him:) –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– We don't have to overthink it to start with! Yesterday I quickly mocked up the front page of how the revamped TW could look/work/feel like. It's not finished AT ALL, just making some ideas tangible: *TW revamp v0.01 <https://www.figma.com/proto/TCQj1L5v85AEB0RUqDMA8a/TiddliWiki-revamp?node-id=1%3A2&viewport=349%2C351%2C0.4002481698989868&scaling=scale-down-width>* *You are welcome to comment on top of prototype! And ask me if you want to edit!* Addressing: - Visual layout (font, colors, white space, removing not first priority elements) - Modeless / Contextual – it does not have to switch to fully different mode for editing. Editing and viewing happens at once. You interact with the smaller elements to get into the deeper editing "mode". For example if you interact with tags - you edit tags, if you interact with your writing cursor with the link in the text, you edit that link. As a result all the options are less overwhelming, it's more contextual. - More advanced editing features and meta data is hidden one click away *⋮* We can run this as a branch experiment of TW revamp, have less features to start with, but then we can prioritise and reintroduced the features to match the simplicity. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ee792a99-3993-43d1-9fbf-2f8f573ef1e9%40googlegroups.com.
