I want to second Eric argument about keeping the download saver as prominent. With 'browser to "Always ask for location" when downloading'.
I do wonder if this should be in an 'are you "new to tiddlywiki" section`. Too much choice is likely to scare less technical users, although the number of choices is inspiring to more technical users. Such a section can also point out they can experience tiddlywiki in their browser without doing any thing else, perhaps including a playground with local storage and a prominent warning. Here is my example of a Playground edition. Have a look and see how it can be used to experiment online without having to save or download. Regards Tony On Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 10:13:26 PM UTC+10, Eric Shulman wrote: > > > I'd like to see the default "download saver" included in this list. > > https://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20with%20the%20HTML5%20fallback%20saver > > I suggest renaming the tiddler to "Saving with the HTML5 default saver" > (i.e., change "fallback" to "default"). > It is, after all, the default method of saving if no other method is > chosen. > > I'd also strongly suggest removing the negative judgmental description, > which currently starts with: > "This method of saving changes is clunky ..." > > While many people find it less than satisfying, I use it ALL THE TIME with > great effectiveness. > > The only thing I do to configure it is to set my browser to "Always ask > for location" when downloading. This bypasses > the default "save to Download folder" behavior so I can easily select > where I want the saved file to go. There's no > extra plugins, scripts, or applications to install, and it works on > practically all systems and browsers. > > The first time I save a TW document, I get the system-based "select a > file/folder" dialog and I just choose the current folder > where the document already lives on my system. That setting is then use > for all subsequent saves, and persists even > between browser sessions, so I almost never need to change it. > > Then, when saving, the system dialog automatically defaults to adding an > "(n)" number suffix, which makes it easy to > save "checkpoints" as I work, without overwriting the original file, so if > I break something, I can quickly compare files to figure > out what I've done wrong or just revert to a previous saved version and > start again. Then, once I am satisfied that everything > is working as I want, I can easily click on the original filename to > overwrite it and then clear out all the "checkpoint" files that > I no longer need to keep around. > > Furthermore, if I do some experimenting starting from > http://tiddlywiki.com/empty.html, I can try stuff online first, and if I > want > to save the experiment to my local system, the "download save" does the > job without any fuss. I just pick a destination folder > and I'm done. I can then continue the experiment from my local system. > > This also works well if I am working from an existing TW I've uploaded to > TiddlySpot. I can make changes online, > and save locally just by clearing the TiddlySpot "wiki name" in the > TiddlySpot Saver settings. > > I get that some people don't like a lot of interaction during the saving > process, but I find it a comfort because > the download saver triggers the system-based "select a file/folder" > dialog, which offers me a moment think, > "am I sure about this?" before saving, and by default avoids accidentally > overwriting an existing file > (because of the automatic "(n)" handling). > > -e > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8bd3e8f8-42a0-4b3f-bcd2-39dc3542f1dbo%40googlegroups.com.
