Thank you for all the replies - very informative and helpful stuff! I appreciate the amazing individual examples/cases Alex shared. I also agree with Tones that the project could greatly benefit from having an opt-in centralized directory of public TW's.
What I'm suggesting in this thread is a bit different from that though. I'm suggesting to look at the big picture instead - numbers and statistics. Indeed, TW doesn't lend itself well for analytics. A poll could be helpful. About analytics, I agree with TT that this should be kept separate from the software itself, to make it very clear for all users that TW has no "online component" (unless this is explicitly set up). This is not the focus of this thread though. I think that, for the purpose of getting a general idea of TW usage, an informal discussion/poll within the existing TW community could suffice (stats like the ones shared by PMario should definitely be considered as well). As I mentioned, the point of doing this would be mainly to better (though not accurately) inform next steps in bringing TW to a wider audience, such as the discussions going on about the website, and the UI. (By the way, I agree with Birthe that this should never mean removing functionality). For example, if we find that most TW users are tech-savvy, and see no need to expand to a more general audience, then the Getting Started page is fine as it is (and this thread can be abandoned). On the other hand, if there is desire to attract a broader audience, then that should be dealt with, as well as improvements in the UI, and a more modern editing experience (and this thread can be helpful for understanding who to target, and how). I updated my original post based on Tone's suggestion, to consider view-only users (and reworded parts of it to make it clear it refers only to users who create/develop). All numbers there are just my initial estimates, so please suggest changes. If enough people contribute and/or think these stats can be useful, I'd by happy to turn them into some nice graphs to help visualize them better. On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 5:44:03 PM UTC+1, OGNSYA wrote: > > I'm curious to know what type of people uses TiddlyWiki currently, and > what type of people the project wants to reach? > > I believe that discussing this might help inform many of the conversations > that have been going on, such as the Getting Started page, and the > UI/workflow redesign. > > In case this is not known, here are a few possible guide questions to help > estimate: > (I included an initial answer in all of them, just as a starting point): > > - *What type of people uses TW? *(considering only those who > create/develop) > (49% coders, 49% casual coders, 2% non-coders?) > - *How do they use TW?* (considering only those who create/develop) > (50% very basic usage, 30% uses several features/plugins, 15% > hack/develop plugins, 5% experts?) > - *What proportion of internet users use TW on a frequent basis?* (2% > edit/view, 3% as viewers only?) > - *How many internet users are coders? *(in general, regardless of TW) > - Non-coders (98.5%?) > - Casual coders (0.5%?) > - Coders (1%?) > > This is intentionally very simplified, especially because most of these > questions can't be answered objectively. Regardless, knowing the > community's perception of them is already very useful. This is meant to be > a first draft. Please feel free to correct/suggest changes. (For the > guesses, I partly used some data found online. ) > > *Edit (2020/06/18): to account for view-only users* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a40d0fd9-fbd3-4156-a984-1cb57e649abdo%40googlegroups.com.
