Damon, The reason I suggested against tags is you then have to differentiate between tags. On the surface there is no immediate difference between a mother or father-name tag. This can be solved, but if a person had a mother and father field, it would be unambiguous. With TOCP you can use other fields. What if you wanted to add a clan tag?, this would also need checking.
However genealogy can get seriously complex, Lets see if TT/Josiah takes the bait and shares some of his resources so far. I do intend to provide the tools one day for a full and sophisticated genealogical tree, consider step children, second spouse, birth date and multiple marriages and death. What is the implication of twins and and multiple birth?, well in my family tree it allowed us to to identify a whole tree of relatives even although the father was unknown. Multiple births are an example of proven FULL siblings. However it will take some time, because I am collecting the mechanisms to make it highly extensible and support other networks and hierarchies as well. Needless to say it will use tocp, Kin, and recursion and possible GenTags. Regards Tony On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 10:48:04 AM UTC+10, Damon Pritchett wrote: > > Hey Tony, > > I have done quite a bit of searching and, at least so far, I have found no > solutions to the problem I was trying to address, just comments on how > difficult the problem is when there are bi-lineal relationships. > > I may not have put enough explanation in my initial post. What I might not > be making clear (see "children of" picture) is that Person 1 is, say, the > father and Persons 2 & 3 are the mothers. Persons 4 and 5 have the same > "father," but not the same mother. That's why I have the word "with" before > the names. > > I played with Kin filter to replicate what I had and couldn't quite get > there. I came close, but couldn't get past the "flatness" of the lists > generated by the kin filter Maybe I gave up too soon, but since I had a > solution that worked, I didn't want to spend any further time on it. > > I've used the TOCP plugin a lot in my wikis and love it. At this point, I > don't see the problem changing whether I use fields or tags, but I could be > wrong. I used tags for this because of the operators tags and tagging which > made things relatively easy. > > Damon > > > On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 5:02:02 PM UTC-7, TW Tones wrote: >> >> Damon, >> >> One way to use the kin filter is to use one kin filter and add or >> subtract the titles from another kin filter. so you could subtract your >> family (your parents below) from that below your grandparents family the >> result will be you aunts uncles cousins etc.. >> >> If using tags to indicate parentage you have to check the the parent to >> determine if they are father or mother, to to make sure the tags is not for >> something else. I suggest moving relationships into fields not tags (If you >> had not already). >> >> Also the TOCP plugin or a variation along with the kin filter operating >> on fields rather than tags is possibly the way to go building a >> genealogical tree. Do Search the forum, TT and others have done a lot of >> genealogical work with Tiddlywiki. >> >> You will find in the forums recursive toc and macros discussed a few >> times that could help you build a full system that iterates trees. >> >> Regards >> Tony >> >> On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 6:14:02 AM UTC+10, Damon Pritchett wrote: >>> >>> I've played around with the kin filter today and it is a fine >>> replacement for part of what I wrote. However, (see the Person 1 picture >>> for reference) to show the children of Person one along with the >>> spouse/partner who was the other parent of the given child, takes the >>> additional steps that I took in my code. The Kin filter cannot do this by >>> itself. The Kin filter will list all of the descendants for Person 1, but >>> that list is a flat list and has no hierarchy to it and will not list the >>> spouses because they are not direct descendants (at least, I haven't been >>> able to figure out how to do it). >>> >>> Damon >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 9:47:48 PM UTC-7, Damon Pritchett wrote: >>>> >>>> Saq, >>>> >>>> I have used it before and it just never occurred to me to use it in >>>> this aspect. Thanks for the reminder. I will look into that tomorrow. What >>>> I did was a great learning experience for me but kin filter will likely >>>> work better. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c8fdd6bd-972a-46d3-bcd8-0cbd3f429e21o%40googlegroups.com.
