Hey Tony,

That is a totally reasonable and sane approach.  I'm just too darned set in 
my ways/thinking (stubborn, crotchety, pig-headed) to go there.  Maybe too 
many years of making sure Oracle database tables always use automagic 
internal sequence numbers as primary key values because primary keys based 
on real-world "business values" are often brutal headaches waiting to 
happen.

When I develop the courage, maybe I need to create some kind of mechanism 
so that a non-existent #tiddler URL reference triggers a 
tiddler-name-change-list lookup (something that automagically gets updated 
upon change name of any tiddler, but still allow edits) to redirect the URL 
to a tiddler via the new name.

Boys oh boys, I'm going to need to let that ferment (slow-cook, dry-cure 
...) in the back o' me sponge for a while ...


On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 9:00:08 PM UTC-3, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Charlie,
>
> Since the tiddler name is the unique key to a tiddler, if you the capture 
> link to a unique tiddler it simply depends on maintaining the title or the 
> link will die. The links are a snapshot in time.
>
> You could create a tiddler you plan to never rename, and to do this, but 
> to allow you to rename the content tiddler you could make a kind of landing 
> page be it a list of battery reviews or include a specific review
>
> eg tiddler title "Battery Reviews" 
> Containing {{Battery-Powered Equipment 
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fintertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org%2FCJ_ProductReviews.html%23Battery-Powered%2520Equipment&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNG1p_BY6xTGe2e_X45D5aKILxT51Q>
> }}
>
> Now share the link 
> https://intertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org/CJ_ProductReviews.html# 
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fintertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org%2FCJ_ProductReviews.html%23Battery-Powered%2520Equipment&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNG1p_BY6xTGe2e_X45D5aKILxT51Q>
> Battery%20Reviews
>
> Perhaps we could create a rename inhibit method to resist renaming when it 
> is such a "reference" tiddler used in (exported/reposted) links.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, 11 October 2020 10:26:52 UTC+11, Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>
>> G'day Tones,
>>
>> I love Relink.  I would go insane without it.  However, it does not 
>> (nothing short of completely changing how TiddlyWiki works) fix this 
>> problem:
>>
>>
>> https://intertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org/CJ_ProductReviews.html#Battery-Powered%20Equipment
>>
>> Sharing that link above (emails, websites, etc.), every instance of that 
>> shared link gets borked the moment I change the page name, doesn't it?
>>
>> Is there a trick to provide a link to a tiddler without including the 
>> tiddler name in the link?
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 6:00:04 PM UTC-3, TW Tones wrote:
>>>
>>> Charlie,
>>>
>>> As I may have mentioned before I am building a solution with tiddler 
>>> serial numbers. 
>>>
>>> However, The relink plugin works well to permit tiddler renames whilst 
>>> retaining the links and references.
>>>
>>> However a tiddler serial number TSN allows this to go a lot further. 
>>> That is why its taking me longer, I want to be sure the fundamental design 
>>> is extensible.
>>>
>>> This method will issue any new tiddler you want a tsn field containing a 
>>> unique value that never changes. A set of link tools will allow you to link 
>>> to the tiddler with a given unique TSN, regardless of the title name. I may 
>>> make use of the TOCP plugin or the alias plugin. Titles do always need to 
>>> be unique, but if you wish you could use the tsn as all or part of the name 
>>> if you want until you choose a better name perhaps.
>>>
>>> I hope to build a set of tools for the automatic naming of tiddlers.
>>>
>>> by the way I understand where you are coming from with *"frustrated 
>>> with how TiddlyWiki URL's to tiddlers work."* but is passes once you 
>>> learn all the tricks.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 11 October 2020 05:00:56 UTC+11, Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That's a very good idea, but I've been on the fence about that for a 
>>>> long time, chewing on some kind of design that distinguishes:
>>>>
>>>>    - external link
>>>>    - internal tidder link that opens the tiddler in the story river
>>>>    - internal tiddler link that opens the tiddler in a modal
>>>>    - can't think of other scenarios at the moment...
>>>>
>>>> I've kind of left that to the subconscious back o' me sponge for many 
>>>> months, waiting for that a-ha moment (or "give it up" moment?) to strike.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, kind of in a paralysis by analysis about the design of every day 
>>>> things...
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 1:58:05 PM UTC-3, amreus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> One small note - You  can use the "tc-tiddlylink" class instead if you 
>>>>> want to match the style TiddlyWiki uses for links. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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