@Charlie,
Is your transclusion template still working? I'd like to implement
something like this for my personal wiki, so that I may build my own
glossary. On visiting your site, it looks like the template is not
functioning properly. Should it still be working, or are there any
alternatives someone can refer me to?
On Saturday, 10 October 2020 at 19:48:19 UTC-5 Charlie Veniot wrote:
> Hey Tony,
>
> That is a totally reasonable and sane approach. I'm just too darned set
> in my ways/thinking (stubborn, crotchety, pig-headed) to go there. Maybe
> too many years of making sure Oracle database tables always use automagic
> internal sequence numbers as primary key values because primary keys based
> on real-world "business values" are often brutal headaches waiting to
> happen.
>
> When I develop the courage, maybe I need to create some kind of mechanism
> so that a non-existent #tiddler URL reference triggers a
> tiddler-name-change-list lookup (something that automagically gets updated
> upon change name of any tiddler, but still allow edits) to redirect the URL
> to a tiddler via the new name.
>
> Boys oh boys, I'm going to need to let that ferment (slow-cook, dry-cure
> ...) in the back o' me sponge for a while ...
>
>
> On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 9:00:08 PM UTC-3, TW Tones wrote:
>>
>> Charlie,
>>
>> Since the tiddler name is the unique key to a tiddler, if you the capture
>> link to a unique tiddler it simply depends on maintaining the title or the
>> link will die. The links are a snapshot in time.
>>
>> You could create a tiddler you plan to never rename, and to do this, but
>> to allow you to rename the content tiddler you could make a kind of landing
>> page be it a list of battery reviews or include a specific review
>>
>> eg tiddler title "Battery Reviews"
>> Containing {{Battery-Powered Equipment
>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fintertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org%2FCJ_ProductReviews.html%23Battery-Powered%2520Equipment&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNG1p_BY6xTGe2e_X45D5aKILxT51Q>
>> }}
>>
>> Now share the link
>> https://intertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org/CJ_ProductReviews.html#
>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fintertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org%2FCJ_ProductReviews.html%23Battery-Powered%2520Equipment&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNG1p_BY6xTGe2e_X45D5aKILxT51Q>
>> Battery%20Reviews
>>
>> Perhaps we could create a rename inhibit method to resist renaming when
>> it is such a "reference" tiddler used in (exported/reposted) links.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Sunday, 11 October 2020 10:26:52 UTC+11, Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>
>>> G'day Tones,
>>>
>>> I love Relink. I would go insane without it. However, it does not
>>> (nothing short of completely changing how TiddlyWiki works) fix this
>>> problem:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://intertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org/CJ_ProductReviews.html#Battery-Powered%20Equipment
>>>
>>> Sharing that link above (emails, websites, etc.), every instance of that
>>> shared link gets borked the moment I change the page name, doesn't it?
>>>
>>> Is there a trick to provide a link to a tiddler without including the
>>> tiddler name in the link?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 6:00:04 PM UTC-3, TW Tones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Charlie,
>>>>
>>>> As I may have mentioned before I am building a solution with tiddler
>>>> serial numbers.
>>>>
>>>> However, The relink plugin works well to permit tiddler renames whilst
>>>> retaining the links and references.
>>>>
>>>> However a tiddler serial number TSN allows this to go a lot further.
>>>> That is why its taking me longer, I want to be sure the fundamental design
>>>> is extensible.
>>>>
>>>> This method will issue any new tiddler you want a tsn field containing
>>>> a unique value that never changes. A set of link tools will allow you to
>>>> link to the tiddler with a given unique TSN, regardless of the title name.
>>>> I may make use of the TOCP plugin or the alias plugin. Titles do always
>>>> need to be unique, but if you wish you could use the tsn as all or part of
>>>> the name if you want until you choose a better name perhaps.
>>>>
>>>> I hope to build a set of tools for the automatic naming of tiddlers.
>>>>
>>>> by the way I understand where you are coming from with *"frustrated
>>>> with how TiddlyWiki URL's to tiddlers work."* but is passes once you
>>>> learn all the tricks.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Tones
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, 11 October 2020 05:00:56 UTC+11, Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a very good idea, but I've been on the fence about that for a
>>>>> long time, chewing on some kind of design that distinguishes:
>>>>>
>>>>> - external link
>>>>> - internal tidder link that opens the tiddler in the story river
>>>>> - internal tiddler link that opens the tiddler in a modal
>>>>> - can't think of other scenarios at the moment...
>>>>>
>>>>> I've kind of left that to the subconscious back o' me sponge for many
>>>>> months, waiting for that a-ha moment (or "give it up" moment?) to strike.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, kind of in a paralysis by analysis about the design of every day
>>>>> things...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 1:58:05 PM UTC-3, amreus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One small note - You can use the "tc-tiddlylink" class instead if
>>>>>> you want to match the style TiddlyWiki uses for links.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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