G'day Felicia,

In all of the various TiddlyWiki instances I've created, I've only done 
something akin to cloning with "Medication Journey" journals in my ADHD 
Slice'n Dice 
<https://intertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org/CJ_AdhdSliceAndDice.html> 
TiddlyWiki.

I am a tweaker by nature, always incrementally 
iterating/adjusting/tweaking/refining/etc. etc. as a slowly get things just 
right (matching whatever intertwingled mess of a puzzle picture in my head.)

The problem I have with creating a  bunch of tiddlers as clones of a 
tiddler template:  when I want to make an adjustment (and I will 
undoubtedly make umpteen adjustments to anything as everything becomes less 
muddied), I have to then go to every tiddler created from whatever template 
and adjust each one accordingly.  That's a huge pain in the caboose.

Eventually, I may create some buttons for tiddler creation as copies of 
template tiddlers in my Product Reviews 
<https://intertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org/CJ_ProductReviews.html> 
TiddlyWiki, but there has to be some significant benefit.  At the moment, 
I'm not seeing any.

My approach to writing and organizing content is to get something down as 
quick as possible that is good enough (a process of progressive 
elicitation?), and then slowly/incrementally/iteratively adjust as 
needs/requirements ( information-bits / structures, the pictures) dictate 
(become clear.)  The plan/direction unfolds as I see the bits written down 
and structured.  Never "big requirements/plans up front".  That's the 
beauty of any Wiki: it allows agility and even massive change to anything 
can be done quickly.  (Unlike dealing with a bunch of separate 
files/documents in some hierarchy of folders.)

Very organic to fit my granola personality.

Oops.  I got wordy.  Hard thing to fix ...

Cheers !

On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 11:19:59 AM UTC-3, Felicia Crow wrote:
>
> Hi Charlie,
>
> somewhat off-topic, but your answer to Atro led me to a question regarding 
> another kind of template. Seeing how streamlined your wiki is, but having 
> not seen anything in this direction: Have you thought about using templates 
> to create certain tiddlers, either by cloning the template or using a 
> button?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Felicia
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 15 October 2020 15:33:54 UTC+2, Charlie Veniot wrote:
>>
>> Hello Atro,
>>
>> Those are excellent questions.  Without having pondered deeply about it, 
>> here is my immediate blathering of thoughts:
>>
>> I generally much prefer transclusion wherever I can use that instead of a 
>> macro.  For the way this old sponge of mine works, transclusion often makes 
>> more sense to me than a macro (maybe because I always think in a 
>> transclusion way (with *everything*, TiddlyWiki or not.)  I also get 
>> annoyed with macro syntax for whatever reason (in the same way somebody 
>> would prefer the colour green while somebody else the colour blue.)
>>
>> There are certain things that, to me, macro is hands down the way to go.  
>> What these things are, I'm not sure.  Maybe it is enough to say that what 
>> can't be nicely done via transclusion, go with a macro.
>>
>> For example, all of the macros in my "Product Reviews" TiddlyWiki:  
>> https://intertwingularityslicendice.neocities.org/CJ_ProductReviews.html#Macros
>>
>> Well, the "ListCategoryProducts" and "ShowProductThumbnail", I can see me 
>> replacing those with transclusion template tiddlers.
>>
>> I am currently only half-way into my morning's first cup o' coffee, still 
>> a bit in a sleepy fog.  Re-reading the above: huh, not so shabby despite 
>> not so bright-eyed and not so bushy-tailed ...
>>
>> Cheers !
>>
>> On Thursday, October 15, 2020 at 2:38:26 AM UTC-3, Atronoush wrote:
>>>
>>> This is absolutely great! What do you think if one uses a macro instead 
>>> of template?
>>> So instead of several templates you can have one tiddler with several 
>>> macros?
>>>
>>> I am really interested to know the pros and cons of template / macro and 
>>> when I should use a template instead of macro?
>>>
>>> --Atro
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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