@Odin: excellent! Thanks for the reminder — it is indeed better to steer away from tinkering with shadow tiddlers, and your nudge is timely given our imminent upgrade!
@Manish: I've now put a chunk more work into the demo site for biblio excerpts <https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/biblio-demo.html>. No doubt others would have somewhat different advice, but I've tried to walk the tightrope of being accessible to TW newbies while also steering toward structure-building habits that will help a quotes-oriented TW file scale well as it grows and evolves. -Springer On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 11:41:02 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: > Hi Springer! > > I saw you added something to $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body to display any > notes that an except may have. You can also get the same result by > copy-pasting the bit of code to a new tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate. > If you add the field list-after with $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body as its > content, it will display it at the end of your tiddlers. This way you don't > have to modify shadow tiddlers, which makes upgrading TiddlyWiki versions > easier as you don't have to manually adjust any changes to your changed > shadow tiddlers. > > Op maandag 30 november 2020 om 22:38:11 UTC+1 schreef springer: > >> Here's some tips: https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/biblio-demo.html >> >> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 3:49:54 PM UTC-5 springer wrote: >> >>> Manish, I've just added a mock-up of how I would have begun organizing >>> my quotes, if I had been working natively in TiddlyWiki from the beginning: >>> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/ethicsatwes.html#excerpt%20overview >>> >>> At some point, I'd like to convert my teaching projects over so that >>> excerpts have their own tiddlers in this way; it's the right way to go. >>> >>> For this mockup, I haven't added fancy css or custom ViewTemplate >>> settings. But the most important thing is data structure, and having >>> confidence that you're setting up an approach that you can build upon >>> without regrets. >>> >>> Last tip: be aware that some tempting field names — especially "title" >>> "text" and "source" should be *avoided* for holding your bibliographic >>> metadata, because TW5 is already using those field-names to track aspects >>> of your tiddlers. For a list of those "already taken" field names, see >>> here: https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerFields >>> >>> -Springer >>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 3:28:12 PM UTC-5 springer wrote: >>> >>>> Manish, >>>> >>>> I just replied in the other thread. But I'll recap briefly here, for >>>> folks coming across this thread: the best approach is probably to have one >>>> excerpt per tiddler, and put only the quoted passage itself in the body of >>>> the tiddler. Then use fields as needed for the metadata attached to each >>>> excerpt, and a tag such as "quote" or "excerpt" if you like. >>>> >>>> If you use the lovely Shiraz plugin >>>> <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/>, you can then also set up a >>>> tiddler for the book (or for the author, etc.) that filters exactly those >>>> tiddlers that have the field values you need, and which displays columns >>>> for the metadata you care about (caption, page, notes, etc.). One great >>>> thing about these dynamic tables is that you can see the whole list/table >>>> of excerpts *and* effortlessly drop-down to see the details of any one >>>> excerpt as needed. >>>> >>>> Feel free to follow up! >>>> >>>> -Springer >>>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 12:34:15 PM UTC-5 >>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear all >>>>> I am relatively new to TiddlyWiki with no knowledge of coding. :) >>>>> I have a query on collating the quotes that I take note of. For each >>>>> book I read, I have separate tiddlers named after the book. While I type >>>>> out a relevant quote from each book in the respective tiddler, what is >>>>> the >>>>> best way to access them all in one place for future reference. I dont >>>>> find >>>>> adding a tag of 'Quotes' to each tiddler helpful. This just gives me the >>>>> list of all the Book Tiddlers... >>>>> >>>>> Thank you all in advance. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Manish >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/df595b46-dcce-409d-b4bb-eb2dac506c4fn%40googlegroups.com.
