@Springer: Thanks a lot. I have a lot to read up and work on now :) Will get back if I reach a roadblock. Also I've noticed that you have made specific tiddlers for each excerpt, right? That could also be an option for me to consider instead of keeping them as part of the book tiddler.
On Tuesday, 1 December, 2020 at 11:08:36 am UTC+5:30 springer wrote: > @Odin: excellent! Thanks for the reminder — it is indeed better to steer > away from tinkering with shadow tiddlers, and your nudge is timely given > our imminent upgrade! > > @Manish: I've now put a chunk more work into the demo site for biblio > excerpts <https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/biblio-demo.html>. No > doubt others would have somewhat different advice, but I've tried to walk > the tightrope of being accessible to TW newbies while also steering toward > structure-building habits that will help a quotes-oriented TW file scale > well as it grows and evolves. > > -Springer > > On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 11:41:02 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: > >> Hi Springer! >> >> I saw you added something to $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body to display any >> notes that an except may have. You can also get the same result by >> copy-pasting the bit of code to a new tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate. >> If you add the field list-after with $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body as its >> content, it will display it at the end of your tiddlers. This way you don't >> have to modify shadow tiddlers, which makes upgrading TiddlyWiki versions >> easier as you don't have to manually adjust any changes to your changed >> shadow tiddlers. >> >> Op maandag 30 november 2020 om 22:38:11 UTC+1 schreef springer: >> >>> Here's some tips: https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/biblio-demo.html >>> >>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 3:49:54 PM UTC-5 springer wrote: >>> >>>> Manish, I've just added a mock-up of how I would have begun organizing >>>> my quotes, if I had been working natively in TiddlyWiki from the beginning: >>>> >>>> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/ethicsatwes.html#excerpt%20overview >>>> >>>> At some point, I'd like to convert my teaching projects over so that >>>> excerpts have their own tiddlers in this way; it's the right way to go. >>>> >>>> For this mockup, I haven't added fancy css or custom ViewTemplate >>>> settings. But the most important thing is data structure, and having >>>> confidence that you're setting up an approach that you can build upon >>>> without regrets. >>>> >>>> Last tip: be aware that some tempting field names — especially "title" >>>> "text" and "source" should be *avoided* for holding your bibliographic >>>> metadata, because TW5 is already using those field-names to track aspects >>>> of your tiddlers. For a list of those "already taken" field names, see >>>> here: https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerFields >>>> >>>> -Springer >>>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 3:28:12 PM UTC-5 springer wrote: >>>> >>>>> Manish, >>>>> >>>>> I just replied in the other thread. But I'll recap briefly here, for >>>>> folks coming across this thread: the best approach is probably to have >>>>> one >>>>> excerpt per tiddler, and put only the quoted passage itself in the body >>>>> of >>>>> the tiddler. Then use fields as needed for the metadata attached to each >>>>> excerpt, and a tag such as "quote" or "excerpt" if you like. >>>>> >>>>> If you use the lovely Shiraz plugin >>>>> <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/>, you can then also set up a >>>>> tiddler for the book (or for the author, etc.) that filters exactly those >>>>> tiddlers that have the field values you need, and which displays columns >>>>> for the metadata you care about (caption, page, notes, etc.). One great >>>>> thing about these dynamic tables is that you can see the whole list/table >>>>> of excerpts *and* effortlessly drop-down to see the details of any one >>>>> excerpt as needed. >>>>> >>>>> Feel free to follow up! >>>>> >>>>> -Springer >>>>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 12:34:15 PM UTC-5 >>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear all >>>>>> I am relatively new to TiddlyWiki with no knowledge of coding. :) >>>>>> I have a query on collating the quotes that I take note of. For each >>>>>> book I read, I have separate tiddlers named after the book. While I type >>>>>> out a relevant quote from each book in the respective tiddler, what is >>>>>> the >>>>>> best way to access them all in one place for future reference. I dont >>>>>> find >>>>>> adding a tag of 'Quotes' to each tiddler helpful. This just gives me the >>>>>> list of all the Book Tiddlers... >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you all in advance. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Manish >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a9da0224-6d86-4ca7-826a-ca49698706dcn%40googlegroups.com.
