Manish: Indeed, having a "specific tiddler for each excerpt" is at the very core of what I'm recommending at that demo site. Then each book tiddler uses filtered-list magic (what TW specializes in) to give you access to all of the quotes that come from that book. :) And yet those same quotes are not "stuck" within that book tiddler. They can easily be selected, sorted, shuffled, and served up in lots of other arrangements as well. -Springer On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 11:53:04 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
> @Springer: Thanks a lot. I have a lot to read up and work on now :) Will > get back if I reach a roadblock. > Also I've noticed that you have made specific tiddlers for each excerpt, > right? That could also be an option for me to consider instead of keeping > them as part of the book tiddler. > > On Tuesday, 1 December, 2020 at 11:08:36 am UTC+5:30 springer wrote: > >> @Odin: excellent! Thanks for the reminder — it is indeed better to steer >> away from tinkering with shadow tiddlers, and your nudge is timely given >> our imminent upgrade! >> >> @Manish: I've now put a chunk more work into the demo site for biblio >> excerpts <https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/biblio-demo.html>. No >> doubt others would have somewhat different advice, but I've tried to walk >> the tightrope of being accessible to TW newbies while also steering toward >> structure-building habits that will help a quotes-oriented TW file scale >> well as it grows and evolves. >> >> -Springer >> >> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 11:41:02 PM UTC-5 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Springer! >>> >>> I saw you added something to $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body to display any >>> notes that an except may have. You can also get the same result by >>> copy-pasting the bit of code to a new tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate. >>> If you add the field list-after with $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body as its >>> content, it will display it at the end of your tiddlers. This way you don't >>> have to modify shadow tiddlers, which makes upgrading TiddlyWiki versions >>> easier as you don't have to manually adjust any changes to your changed >>> shadow tiddlers. >>> >>> Op maandag 30 november 2020 om 22:38:11 UTC+1 schreef springer: >>> >>>> Here's some tips: >>>> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/biblio-demo.html >>>> >>>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 3:49:54 PM UTC-5 springer wrote: >>>> >>>>> Manish, I've just added a mock-up of how I would have begun organizing >>>>> my quotes, if I had been working natively in TiddlyWiki from the >>>>> beginning: >>>>> >>>>> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/ethicsatwes.html#excerpt%20overview >>>>> >>>>> At some point, I'd like to convert my teaching projects over so that >>>>> excerpts have their own tiddlers in this way; it's the right way to go. >>>>> >>>>> For this mockup, I haven't added fancy css or custom ViewTemplate >>>>> settings. But the most important thing is data structure, and having >>>>> confidence that you're setting up an approach that you can build upon >>>>> without regrets. >>>>> >>>>> Last tip: be aware that some tempting field names — especially "title" >>>>> "text" and "source" should be *avoided* for holding your bibliographic >>>>> metadata, because TW5 is already using those field-names to track aspects >>>>> of your tiddlers. For a list of those "already taken" field names, see >>>>> here: https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerFields >>>>> >>>>> -Springer >>>>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 3:28:12 PM UTC-5 springer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Manish, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just replied in the other thread. But I'll recap briefly here, for >>>>>> folks coming across this thread: the best approach is probably to have >>>>>> one >>>>>> excerpt per tiddler, and put only the quoted passage itself in the body >>>>>> of >>>>>> the tiddler. Then use fields as needed for the metadata attached to each >>>>>> excerpt, and a tag such as "quote" or "excerpt" if you like. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you use the lovely Shiraz plugin >>>>>> <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/>, you can then also set up a >>>>>> tiddler for the book (or for the author, etc.) that filters exactly >>>>>> those >>>>>> tiddlers that have the field values you need, and which displays columns >>>>>> for the metadata you care about (caption, page, notes, etc.). One great >>>>>> thing about these dynamic tables is that you can see the whole >>>>>> list/table >>>>>> of excerpts *and* effortlessly drop-down to see the details of any one >>>>>> excerpt as needed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Feel free to follow up! >>>>>> >>>>>> -Springer >>>>>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 12:34:15 PM UTC-5 >>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear all >>>>>>> I am relatively new to TiddlyWiki with no knowledge of coding. :) >>>>>>> I have a query on collating the quotes that I take note of. For each >>>>>>> book I read, I have separate tiddlers named after the book. While I >>>>>>> type >>>>>>> out a relevant quote from each book in the respective tiddler, what is >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> best way to access them all in one place for future reference. I dont >>>>>>> find >>>>>>> adding a tag of 'Quotes' to each tiddler helpful. This just gives me >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> list of all the Book Tiddlers... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you all in advance. >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Manish >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1a680390-d4af-4850-898f-b41f3a80b13fn%40googlegroups.com.
