I was fumbling my way around tiddlywiki.com and came across this following SVG tiddler, "Tiddler Fishes.svg"
The thought occurred, perhaps we are just not promoting the idea of tiddlers and a wiki of them enough. As they say "in for a penny, in for a pound". Perhaps we are not taking ownership of the original idea of Jeremy's about tiddlers and their multifunctional use, perhaps we just need to explain and promote the "story". Then no need to name change, already if you search for tiddler you get descriptive definitions. We just need to add to this more information and stop this desire to rename tiddlywiki etc... The value of defining your own term is invaluable, sure it is like cards, fragments, records etc.. but if you own a term, you need to ensure people understand it. Define it publicly. eg; *Tiddlers are small pieces of information you can organise however you want, but they also control the user interface, settings and a lot more in tiddlywiki. They can acts as index cards, notes, fragments and records you may find in other applications or databases, so we felt we needed a new name "tiddler", to represent this very flexible unit of information.* Regards Tones On Tuesday, 19 January 2021 at 11:14:59 UTC+11 Charlie Veniot wrote: > Oooooo, I think you're getting to my semantic hiccup with "cards". > > To me, a "card" represents an object. For example: a recipe, a business > client, etc. > > On the card, there's all kinds of data on it. Recipe might have > ingredients and measures, and instructions like cooking time and > temperature. > > And that's where tiddler comes in. A tiddler may be just a bit of data. > A tiddler might transclude a whole bunch of other tiddlers to present all > data as a "card". A tiddler might have no data at all (i.e. not even be a > "fragment"): a tiddler could be a transclusion template, or an image, or a > script, etc. etc. > > So a bit more why I love "tiddler". A nice abstract word that doesn't > ascribe any purpose/stereotype. Something like that ... > > > On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 7:36:48 PM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad wrote: > >> Charlie Veniot wrote: >> >>> >>> *TiddlyTweeter wrote:* >>> >>>> *Charlie ...* >>>> * "card" turns me off for some weird reason (gets me semantically >>>> glitching?). * >>>> >>>> *Right. Me too. Card / record has an implying very bound up with >>>> database histories. I actually think the TW "fragment" is actually NOT >>>> that. It is quite distant form such "pre-structuring" concepts.* >>>> >>> >> Here's an additional aspect, which was bothering me back when I was >> reading the thread last week about possible alternative names for >> TiddlyWiki and, more relevant here, tiddlers, but I couldn't quite place it >> until now. I love index cards, and they're very flexible, but they're >> *objects*; they don't do anything themselves. You write them, you read >> them, you tag them, you reorder them, you filter them, you group them, but >> at the end of the day they're pieces of data in a single format that you, >> an actor outside the system of cards, are manipulating. Tiddlers aren't >> like that at all. Tiddlers behave like data, yes, but they also behave like >> templates and tags and filters and calculators and bulletin boards and >> highlighters. Tiddlers *do *the sorting and filtering on other tiddlers; >> the distinction between actor and data is gone, and it's all one system >> that loops back on itself. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/19d4c235-fc2e-4812-ab8b-66a4b747cac6n%40googlegroups.com.
