I was going to try <iframe width="560" height="315" src="Webpages/{{!!
*caption*}}.html" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> because 
Tiddlyclip already automatically creates a caption field for each tiddler 
... and then I noticed that the title Tiddlyclip grabbed to put in the 
caption field is *different* than the name the browser puts on the html 
file of a webpage.

*Tiddlyclip automatic captioning:* Scientists’ Lab Creations Of Living 
‘Model Embryos’ Raise Ethics Questions : The Daily Wire
*Desktop Firefox browser saves the webpage as:* Scientists’ Lab Creations 
Of Living ‘Model Embryos’ Raise Ethics Questions | The Daily Wire.html
*Desktop Brave browser saves the webpage as:*  Scientists’ Lab Creations Of 
Living ‘Model Embryos’ Raise Ethics Questions _ The Daily Wire.html

Conclusion: 

It would be hard for Tiddlyclip to automate this as everybody uses 
different browsers. 

*I *don't know how to tweak this to be automated even if I choose one 
browser to stick with.  

On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:10:56 PM UTC+8 Sapphireslinger wrote:

> Woohoo! It works with plain html files. Closest I've been able to get to 
> Evernote Web Clipper!
>
> If it is a true html file, and not just me deleting the first "m" out of 
> the .mhtml file name, then both of these work:
>
> [ext[Open file|Webpages/foo.html]]
>
> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="Webpages/foo.html" frameborder="0" 
> allowfullscreen></iframe> 
>
> Thanks to https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/khBwYoy3Syg for that 
> last. 
>
>
> *1. But is it safer than pasting the raw html into a tiddler? Does it 
> being embedded in an iframe somehow make it safer? (And is it 
> non-bloating?)*
>
> *2. Can I modify Tiddlyclip to automatically include <iframe width="560" 
> height="315" src="Webpages/{{!!Title}}.html" frameborder="0" 
> allowfullscreen></iframe> in every tiddler Tiddlyclip creates? Is 
> {{!!Title}} how it should be written?*
>
> 3. Do I really need the 560 and 315? I will try leaving them out.
>
> P.S. I can also see how .mhtml would have been the ultimate in formatting 
> above even .html, because as I understand now, the .mhtml is a SINGLE FILE 
> package of what used to be two separate things: the .html file with its 
> ancillary media folder (i.e. what was created when a person used to click 
> "save as complete webpage"). But until .mhtml embedding becomes possible, 
> .html is already great.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 8:23:14 PM UTC+8 Sapphireslinger wrote:
>
>> Thank you Jeremy for looking into it!
>>
>> Tones, I started to look for an mhtml file to send, but choosing one has 
>> me frozen for the present. 
>>
>> Mark, I tried Copycat Markdown and it is a step up from plain text but 
>> still looks messy, not the neat formatting of html. I will however use 
>> markdown from now on instead of html since you confirmed the bloat and 
>> insecurity. Now I just have to find all those bookmarks with html to delete.
>>
>> Thank you all for the info!
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 9:49:54 PM UTC+8 Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> HTML has a lot of excess code. But if you're using copycat, you can copy 
>>> the file contents as Markdown. The new markdown plugin updates allows some 
>>> use of wikitext, so you can now have the best of both worlds. Markdown, 
>>> like wikitext, is very lightweight, and you lose the incredible bloat of 
>>> HTML -- and the dangers of hidden code.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:18:38 AM UTC-7 Sapphireslinger wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like to save my favorite web articles to my note-taking tiddlywiki. 
>>>>
>>>> For plain text I love Tiddlyclip. But when I want to preserve the 
>>>> formatting I also use the firefox extension Copycat to copy and paste the 
>>>> html of a selection into the tiddler (and I worry about the safety of 
>>>> pasting who-knows-what code into a tiddler - but this is a side question). 
>>>>
>>>> However, recently I discovered that the Brave browser on my Android 
>>>> mobile has a button to download a webpage as an .mhtml file.  
>>>>
>>>> Could I treat the downloaded .mhtml files like my external img files 
>>>> and just call for them like calling for an external img, for example 
>>>> something similar to [img[foo.mhtml]] or [ext[Open 
>>>> file|/foo/foo/foo.mhtml]]?
>>>>
>>>> That way the .mhtml files would be stored outside the tiddlywiki (no 
>>>> bloat) and merely viewed when called for. Is there a way to do this? And 
>>>> is 
>>>> it safer?
>>>>
>>>> * I tried [ext[Open file|/foo/foo/foo.mhtml]] and it just opened a page 
>>>> of code, no website. (I was trying to access a downloaded .mhtml file 
>>>> using 
>>>> Tiddlywiki on Firefox on my desktop computer running Linux Mint). 
>>>>
>>>> * I tried renaming the link and the file to .html instead of .mhtml and 
>>>> it just keeps "loading..."
>>>>
>>>> I tried opening the file directly on my computer (not going through 
>>>> Tiddlywiki) by right-clicking on the file and choosing to open with 
>>>> firefox, and it only works if the file extension has been changed to .html.
>>>>
>>>> I would be happy to hear what experiences people have had with .mhtml 
>>>> files and Tiddlywiki.
>>>>
>>>

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