Quick tip
You can use width="100%" in iframes to make use of the available space.
I have used a range of firefox plugtins over the years some of which copy
and save html very nicely. If not too large pasting strait into a tiddler
may be fine.
If you save a full html site to a subfolder, including images and
Javascript etc... you can sometimes host a html page in a tiddler that is
fully functional, if not breaking the single file model.
Tones
On Thursday, 25 March 2021 at 23:24:10 UTC+11 Sapphireslinger wrote:
> I was going to try <iframe width="560" height="315" src="Webpages/{{!!
> *caption*}}.html" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> because
> Tiddlyclip already automatically creates a caption field for each tiddler
> ... and then I noticed that the title Tiddlyclip grabbed to put in the
> caption field is *different* than the name the browser puts on the html
> file of a webpage.
>
> *Tiddlyclip automatic captioning:* Scientists’ Lab Creations Of Living
> ‘Model Embryos’ Raise Ethics Questions : The Daily Wire
> *Desktop Firefox browser saves the webpage as:* Scientists’ Lab Creations
> Of Living ‘Model Embryos’ Raise Ethics Questions | The Daily Wire.html
> *Desktop Brave browser saves the webpage as:* Scientists’ Lab Creations
> Of Living ‘Model Embryos’ Raise Ethics Questions _ The Daily Wire.html
>
> Conclusion:
>
> It would be hard for Tiddlyclip to automate this as everybody uses
> different browsers.
>
> *I *don't know how to tweak this to be automated even if I choose one
> browser to stick with.
>
> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:10:56 PM UTC+8 Sapphireslinger wrote:
>
>> Woohoo! It works with plain html files. Closest I've been able to get to
>> Evernote Web Clipper!
>>
>> If it is a true html file, and not just me deleting the first "m" out of
>> the .mhtml file name, then both of these work:
>>
>> [ext[Open file|Webpages/foo.html]]
>>
>> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="Webpages/foo.html" frameborder="0"
>> allowfullscreen></iframe>
>>
>> Thanks to https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/khBwYoy3Syg for that
>> last.
>>
>>
>> *1. But is it safer than pasting the raw html into a tiddler? Does it
>> being embedded in an iframe somehow make it safer? (And is it
>> non-bloating?)*
>>
>> *2. Can I modify Tiddlyclip to automatically include <iframe width="560"
>> height="315" src="Webpages/{{!!Title}}.html" frameborder="0"
>> allowfullscreen></iframe> in every tiddler Tiddlyclip creates? Is
>> {{!!Title}} how it should be written?*
>>
>> 3. Do I really need the 560 and 315? I will try leaving them out.
>>
>> P.S. I can also see how .mhtml would have been the ultimate in formatting
>> above even .html, because as I understand now, the .mhtml is a SINGLE FILE
>> package of what used to be two separate things: the .html file with its
>> ancillary media folder (i.e. what was created when a person used to click
>> "save as complete webpage"). But until .mhtml embedding becomes possible,
>> .html is already great.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 8:23:14 PM UTC+8 Sapphireslinger wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Jeremy for looking into it!
>>>
>>> Tones, I started to look for an mhtml file to send, but choosing one has
>>> me frozen for the present.
>>>
>>> Mark, I tried Copycat Markdown and it is a step up from plain text but
>>> still looks messy, not the neat formatting of html. I will however use
>>> markdown from now on instead of html since you confirmed the bloat and
>>> insecurity. Now I just have to find all those bookmarks with html to delete.
>>>
>>> Thank you all for the info!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 9:49:54 PM UTC+8 Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>>> HTML has a lot of excess code. But if you're using copycat, you can
>>>> copy the file contents as Markdown. The new markdown plugin updates allows
>>>> some use of wikitext, so you can now have the best of both worlds.
>>>> Markdown, like wikitext, is very lightweight, and you lose the incredible
>>>> bloat of HTML -- and the dangers of hidden code.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:18:38 AM UTC-7 Sapphireslinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I like to save my favorite web articles to my note-taking tiddlywiki.
>>>>>
>>>>> For plain text I love Tiddlyclip. But when I want to preserve the
>>>>> formatting I also use the firefox extension Copycat to copy and paste the
>>>>> html of a selection into the tiddler (and I worry about the safety of
>>>>> pasting who-knows-what code into a tiddler - but this is a side
>>>>> question).
>>>>>
>>>>> However, recently I discovered that the Brave browser on my Android
>>>>> mobile has a button to download a webpage as an .mhtml file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could I treat the downloaded .mhtml files like my external img files
>>>>> and just call for them like calling for an external img, for example
>>>>> something similar to [img[foo.mhtml]] or [ext[Open
>>>>> file|/foo/foo/foo.mhtml]]?
>>>>>
>>>>> That way the .mhtml files would be stored outside the tiddlywiki (no
>>>>> bloat) and merely viewed when called for. Is there a way to do this? And
>>>>> is
>>>>> it safer?
>>>>>
>>>>> * I tried [ext[Open file|/foo/foo/foo.mhtml]] and it just opened a
>>>>> page of code, no website. (I was trying to access a downloaded .mhtml
>>>>> file
>>>>> using Tiddlywiki on Firefox on my desktop computer running Linux Mint).
>>>>>
>>>>> * I tried renaming the link and the file to .html instead of .mhtml
>>>>> and it just keeps "loading..."
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried opening the file directly on my computer (not going through
>>>>> Tiddlywiki) by right-clicking on the file and choosing to open with
>>>>> firefox, and it only works if the file extension has been changed to
>>>>> .html.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would be happy to hear what experiences people have had with .mhtml
>>>>> files and Tiddlywiki.
>>>>>
>>>>
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