BJ, Thank you for the html option for Tiddlyclip. I tried it today and I think I can get rid of my Copycat add-on to Firefox!
However it has the same limitations of Copycat: I can not select an entire web article and then expect that everything will be carried over into Tiddlywiki. Regardless of Snip, Html, or Copycat, I will sometimes open the resulting tiddler to find only one or two paragraphs copied instead of the entire article, I guess because some webpages have underlying partitioning code that derails the copy process. I would have to snip/html paragraph by paragraph which is too time-consuming. So while Tiddlyclip with html is presently a great substitute for Copycat when it comes to a few lines or paragraphs, I do not yet have the skill to configure it to be the second coming of Evernote Web Clipper for entire articles. I ended up saving the webpage as html and calling it into a tiddler via iframe. However thank you so much for helping me get rid of Copycat! The maker of Copycat is probably a great person and I don't know if the add-on is open source or not, but Tiddlywiki I know has a great community and is very transparent. On Saturday, March 27, 2021 at 4:56:10 AM UTC+8 BJ wrote: > Actually under windows both '":" and "|" are illegal in file names, see > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/naming-a-file > > The true page title is 'Scientists’ Lab Creations Of Living ‘Model > Embryos’ Raise Ethics Questions | The Daily Wire.html' but the '|' needs > to be avoided in tiddlywiki titles so tiddlyclip changes it to ':'. This > can be changed to another character by modifying the rule to substitute the > ':' with another character. > > BJ > > > On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 1:24:10 PM UTC+1 Sapphireslinger wrote: > >> I was going to try <iframe width="560" height="315" src="Webpages/{{!! >> *caption*}}.html" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> because >> Tiddlyclip already automatically creates a caption field for each tiddler >> ... and then I noticed that the title Tiddlyclip grabbed to put in the >> caption field is *different* than the name the browser puts on the html >> file of a webpage. >> >> *Tiddlyclip automatic captioning:* Scientists’ Lab Creations Of Living >> ‘Model Embryos’ Raise Ethics Questions : The Daily Wire >> *Desktop Firefox browser saves the webpage as:* Scientists’ Lab >> Creations Of Living ‘Model Embryos’ Raise Ethics Questions | The Daily >> Wire.html >> *Desktop Brave browser saves the webpage as:* Scientists’ Lab Creations >> Of Living ‘Model Embryos’ Raise Ethics Questions _ The Daily Wire.html >> >> Conclusion: >> >> It would be hard for Tiddlyclip to automate this as everybody uses >> different browsers. >> >> *I *don't know how to tweak this to be automated even if I choose one >> browser to stick with. >> >> On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 12:10:56 PM UTC+8 Sapphireslinger wrote: >> >>> Woohoo! It works with plain html files. Closest I've been able to get to >>> Evernote Web Clipper! >>> >>> If it is a true html file, and not just me deleting the first "m" out of >>> the .mhtml file name, then both of these work: >>> >>> [ext[Open file|Webpages/foo.html]] >>> >>> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="Webpages/foo.html" frameborder="0" >>> allowfullscreen></iframe> >>> >>> Thanks to https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/khBwYoy3Syg for that >>> last. >>> >>> >>> *1. But is it safer than pasting the raw html into a tiddler? Does it >>> being embedded in an iframe somehow make it safer? (And is it >>> non-bloating?)* >>> >>> *2. Can I modify Tiddlyclip to automatically include <iframe width="560" >>> height="315" src="Webpages/{{!!Title}}.html" frameborder="0" >>> allowfullscreen></iframe> in every tiddler Tiddlyclip creates? Is >>> {{!!Title}} how it should be written?* >>> >>> 3. Do I really need the 560 and 315? I will try leaving them out. >>> >>> P.S. I can also see how .mhtml would have been the ultimate in >>> formatting above even .html, because as I understand now, the .mhtml is a >>> SINGLE FILE package of what used to be two separate things: the .html file >>> with its ancillary media folder (i.e. what was created when a person used >>> to click "save as complete webpage"). But until .mhtml embedding becomes >>> possible, .html is already great. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 8:23:14 PM UTC+8 Sapphireslinger wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Jeremy for looking into it! >>>> >>>> Tones, I started to look for an mhtml file to send, but choosing one >>>> has me frozen for the present. >>>> >>>> Mark, I tried Copycat Markdown and it is a step up from plain text but >>>> still looks messy, not the neat formatting of html. I will however use >>>> markdown from now on instead of html since you confirmed the bloat and >>>> insecurity. Now I just have to find all those bookmarks with html to >>>> delete. >>>> >>>> Thank you all for the info! >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 9:49:54 PM UTC+8 Mark S. wrote: >>>> >>>>> HTML has a lot of excess code. But if you're using copycat, you can >>>>> copy the file contents as Markdown. The new markdown plugin updates >>>>> allows >>>>> some use of wikitext, so you can now have the best of both worlds. >>>>> Markdown, like wikitext, is very lightweight, and you lose the incredible >>>>> bloat of HTML -- and the dangers of hidden code. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 12:18:38 AM UTC-7 Sapphireslinger wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I like to save my favorite web articles to my note-taking tiddlywiki. >>>>>> >>>>>> For plain text I love Tiddlyclip. But when I want to preserve the >>>>>> formatting I also use the firefox extension Copycat to copy and paste >>>>>> the >>>>>> html of a selection into the tiddler (and I worry about the safety of >>>>>> pasting who-knows-what code into a tiddler - but this is a side >>>>>> question). >>>>>> >>>>>> However, recently I discovered that the Brave browser on my Android >>>>>> mobile has a button to download a webpage as an .mhtml file. >>>>>> >>>>>> Could I treat the downloaded .mhtml files like my external img files >>>>>> and just call for them like calling for an external img, for example >>>>>> something similar to [img[foo.mhtml]] or [ext[Open >>>>>> file|/foo/foo/foo.mhtml]]? >>>>>> >>>>>> That way the .mhtml files would be stored outside the tiddlywiki (no >>>>>> bloat) and merely viewed when called for. Is there a way to do this? And >>>>>> is >>>>>> it safer? >>>>>> >>>>>> * I tried [ext[Open file|/foo/foo/foo.mhtml]] and it just opened a >>>>>> page of code, no website. (I was trying to access a downloaded .mhtml >>>>>> file >>>>>> using Tiddlywiki on Firefox on my desktop computer running Linux Mint). >>>>>> >>>>>> * I tried renaming the link and the file to .html instead of .mhtml >>>>>> and it just keeps "loading..." >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried opening the file directly on my computer (not going through >>>>>> Tiddlywiki) by right-clicking on the file and choosing to open with >>>>>> firefox, and it only works if the file extension has been changed to >>>>>> .html. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would be happy to hear what experiences people have had with .mhtml >>>>>> files and Tiddlywiki. >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c210a081-33e3-420f-a014-232dfd4f3762n%40googlegroups.com.
