<label for=<<qualify id>>>This is the label</label>
<input id=<<qualify id>>/>

This is hand-made html code. how would I be able to get the input behave in 
tiddlywiki as if it was done by the button widget?

could a pragma like \useIdInButtons be used to allow a code like <$button 
actions=<<myMacro>> id=auto/> which would construct an input with an 
id=<<qualify id>>? No other value than "auto" would be allowed for "id", 
making uniformed use of it fail and force coders to look at the doc?

Le mercredi 28 avril 2021 à 17:34:14 UTC+2, [email protected] a écrit :

> Hi Jean-Pierre
>
> On 28 Apr 2021, at 15:48, Jean-Pierre Rivière <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the clarification. I understand your point of view.
>
> Now if I want to have a go at it, for instance so that my input buttons 
> can get an id from a parameter, how should I proceed? From where should I 
> start? I'm sure this is not trivial but I'm eager to try.
>
>
> It’s essentially the same problem as we encounter when generating unique 
> state tiddler titles. Thus you could use the <<qualify>> macro like so:
>
> <label for=<<qualify id>>>This is the label</label>
> <input id=<<qualify id>>/>
>
> The qualify macro returns its argument with a string of numbers appended 
> that is derived from the ancestor transclusions, making an ID that will be 
> unique within a transclusion.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> regards.
>
> Le mercredi 28 avril 2021 à 12:32:33 UTC+2, [email protected] a écrit :
>
>> In a recent thread, Jeremy told me that having id elements is a bit of a 
>> problem because each tiddler can be transcluded more than once into any 
>> given tiddler' which would result into a broken html with a repeated id 
>> value.
>>
>>
>> This is true.
>>
>> But if id are required, shouldn't it be up to the programmer to make sure 
>> there is no problem? Of course, the doc would tell that specifying id is a 
>> tricky things to be done with great precaution. But this is IMHO better 
>> that forbidding id specification altogether.
>>
>> As was the exposed, this has to do with WCAG requirements ignoring the 
>> CORRECT HTML (stated as accessible on official docs) 
>> <label><input/></label> are requiring <label for=foo/><input id=foo/> as 
>> the only validating way of accessible code. (with some variations for 
>> WAI-ARIA)
>>
>>
>> Just to be clear, the core doesn't forbid using "id" attributes, it's 
>> perfectly possible to use them as long as care is taken. The thing that's 
>> particularly hard is to use IDs within a reusable component without the 
>> user of that component being aware of the mechanism. So, the core avoids 
>> the complexity of these techniques.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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