Hi,

I agree with you and see the problem. One simple solution is just sharing 
links like https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[20140904085700000]]

Best,
Anders
onsdag 5. mai 2021 kl. 14:15:43 UTC+2 skrev ludwa6:

> OK @Tones & @TT: if neither of you guys sees this as problematic, then i'd 
> better explain myself better.  Here's a meta-example i've just documented:
>
>    1.  Create a tiddler on this topic, and give it a permalink: 
>    https://meta.tiddlyhost.com/#AvoidingLinkRot.  Share link with 
>    friends, to engage their support in taming this dragon!
>    2.  Recall that "Link Rot" is a well-known problem, which Wikipedia 
>    might know about- and indeed: see 
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_rot
>    3. Realise that- in keeping w/ principle of AtomicGranularity- i 
>    should probably limit this tiddler to describing the problem (including 
>    link to that Wikipedia article and maybe just my review of that material) 
>    and rename it after that article: "ProblemOfLinkRot"
>    4. Work away on that renamed tiddler, adding my detailed analysis of 
>    the article, and the problem.  
>    5. Puzzled after a time as to why nobody is commenting on my work, 
>    check the link -and find out that it's broken. (yeesh! and nobody told me? 
>    did they even click the link i shared?)
>
> i've run through this loop enough times, it's already getting old.  Could 
> it be that it's just me, i wonder?
>
> /walt
> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 10:51:28 AM UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Ciao walt,
>>
>> Right. Tiddler PERMALINK-ability posted as URLs elsewhere is intimately 
>> tied to NOT changing Titles.
>>
>> Personally I can't get in a hot sweat over that. That is no different 
>> than any other web page.
>> SURE you could get into REDIRECTS on a server or up the complexity 
>> within  TW of self-REDIRECTS I guess?
>>
>> I don't really see the point though :-). 
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>> On Wednesday, 5 May 2021 at 10:34:24 UTC+2 ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> The more i use TW, the more concerned i become about maintaining data 
>>> integrity -and so this issue has boiled to the top of my queue: how can i 
>>> continue to enjoy the benefits of TW (+ Relink plugin) flexibility, without 
>>> compromising the integrity of Permalinks?  
>>>
>>> This feels like a deep problem that goes right to core TW architecture- 
>>> since, as PMario explained in last thread 
>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/kTrAbuneCkA/m/lAsdkriFAgAJ>, 
>>> tiddler immutability is tied to its Title (so how can Relink even work, i 
>>> wonder?)- but if i've learned anything here, it is to not underestimate the 
>>> creative problem-solving ability of this group :-)... SO:
>>>
>>> From a non-technical perspective, what i'd like to do is have some 
>>> immutable UID (based on date-time, or maybe date+ a serial number, like 
>>> yyyy-mm-dd-serialnum) that is used for Permalinks (i.e. shared w/ the 
>>> outside web that is not Relink-aware), but still have Title field and 
>>> Relink plugin (and everything else for that matter) work just as it does 
>>> now, from the TW editor's perspective.
>>>
>>> Is this a reasonable feature design goal, i wonder?  If so, i'd like to 
>>> do what i can to help make it happen!
>>>
>>> /walt
>>>
>>>

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