Oh, and also a button to give a tiddler a uid field with an auto-generated uid value.
Something like that ... On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 12:07:59 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote: > Anders, you sweet and huggable you. > > That way of getting tiddlers is new to me, and just gave me a fantastic > idea. > > Now knowing that URL's like > https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[title[Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot]] and > https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[delivery[Service]] > > Then having auto-generated/auto-created uid fields on tiddlers ... > > Say a tiddler titled "Tiddler XYZ", if it had a uid field with value > "tid-000001", then a link like this should work: > https://whatever-your-tiddlywiki/#:[uid[tid-000001]] > > It is just a matter of having an alternate permalink button that generates > that uid link. > > Yay ? > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 10:03:07 AM UTC-3 Anjar wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I agree with you and see the problem. One simple solution is just sharing >> links like https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[20140904085700000]] >> >> Best, >> Anders >> onsdag 5. mai 2021 kl. 14:15:43 UTC+2 skrev ludwa6: >> >>> OK @Tones & @TT: if neither of you guys sees this as problematic, then >>> i'd better explain myself better. Here's a meta-example i've just >>> documented: >>> >>> 1. Create a tiddler on this topic, and give it a permalink: >>> https://meta.tiddlyhost.com/#AvoidingLinkRot. Share link with >>> friends, to engage their support in taming this dragon! >>> 2. Recall that "Link Rot" is a well-known problem, which Wikipedia >>> might know about- and indeed: see >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_rot >>> 3. Realise that- in keeping w/ principle of AtomicGranularity- i >>> should probably limit this tiddler to describing the problem (including >>> link to that Wikipedia article and maybe just my review of that >>> material) >>> and rename it after that article: "ProblemOfLinkRot" >>> 4. Work away on that renamed tiddler, adding my detailed analysis of >>> the article, and the problem. >>> 5. Puzzled after a time as to why nobody is commenting on my work, >>> check the link -and find out that it's broken. (yeesh! and nobody told >>> me? >>> did they even click the link i shared?) >>> >>> i've run through this loop enough times, it's already getting old. >>> Could it be that it's just me, i wonder? >>> >>> /walt >>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 10:51:28 AM UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote: >>> >>>> Ciao walt, >>>> >>>> Right. Tiddler PERMALINK-ability posted as URLs elsewhere is intimately >>>> tied to NOT changing Titles. >>>> >>>> Personally I can't get in a hot sweat over that. That is no different >>>> than any other web page. >>>> SURE you could get into REDIRECTS on a server or up the complexity >>>> within TW of self-REDIRECTS I guess? >>>> >>>> I don't really see the point though :-). >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> TT >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, 5 May 2021 at 10:34:24 UTC+2 ludwa6 wrote: >>>> >>>>> The more i use TW, the more concerned i become about maintaining data >>>>> integrity -and so this issue has boiled to the top of my queue: how can i >>>>> continue to enjoy the benefits of TW (+ Relink plugin) flexibility, >>>>> without >>>>> compromising the integrity of Permalinks? >>>>> >>>>> This feels like a deep problem that goes right to core TW >>>>> architecture- since, as PMario explained in last thread >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/kTrAbuneCkA/m/lAsdkriFAgAJ>, >>>>> tiddler immutability is tied to its Title (so how can Relink even work, i >>>>> wonder?)- but if i've learned anything here, it is to not underestimate >>>>> the >>>>> creative problem-solving ability of this group :-)... SO: >>>>> >>>>> From a non-technical perspective, what i'd like to do is have some >>>>> immutable UID (based on date-time, or maybe date+ a serial number, like >>>>> yyyy-mm-dd-serialnum) that is used for Permalinks (i.e. shared w/ the >>>>> outside web that is not Relink-aware), but still have Title field and >>>>> Relink plugin (and everything else for that matter) work just as it does >>>>> now, from the TW editor's perspective. >>>>> >>>>> Is this a reasonable feature design goal, i wonder? If so, i'd like >>>>> to do what i can to help make it happen! >>>>> >>>>> /walt >>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6f41ad8c-2148-49ef-b9b8-0f27302a76edn%40googlegroups.com.
