Here are some related threads where I also shared some thoughts along this topic:
https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/pvc-qqoWHdI/m/TcX3FPNaAgAJ https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/WtNz2X10jIA/m/9VaQHBjUCwAJ I also would love to have built in support for uniqueIDs (created serves great!) but no one actually wants to //type// it out! I gave some ideas to avoid having to type it out in the threads. Something like: [[#current_title]] gets replaced-on-save with the actual created time stamp of the tiddler. Then, on view mode, that is parsed and displays the current title, whatever it may be. That way, I never type the created timestamp, but it gets actually placed in and in view mode, I never even see a differnce. On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 10:10:25 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: > Oh, and also a button to give a tiddler a uid field with an auto-generated > uid value. > > Something like that ... > > On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 12:07:59 PM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote: > >> Anders, you sweet and huggable you. >> >> That way of getting tiddlers is new to me, and just gave me a fantastic >> idea. >> >> Now knowing that URL's like >> https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[title[Saving%20on%20TiddlySpot]] and >> https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[delivery[Service]] >> >> Then having auto-generated/auto-created uid fields on tiddlers ... >> >> Say a tiddler titled "Tiddler XYZ", if it had a uid field with value >> "tid-000001", then a link like this should work: >> https://whatever-your-tiddlywiki/#:[uid[tid-000001]] >> >> It is just a matter of having an alternate permalink button that >> generates that uid link. >> >> Yay ? >> >> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 10:03:07 AM UTC-3 Anjar wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I agree with you and see the problem. One simple solution is just >>> sharing links like https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[20140904085700000]] >>> >>> Best, >>> Anders >>> onsdag 5. mai 2021 kl. 14:15:43 UTC+2 skrev ludwa6: >>> >>>> OK @Tones & @TT: if neither of you guys sees this as problematic, then >>>> i'd better explain myself better. Here's a meta-example i've just >>>> documented: >>>> >>>> 1. Create a tiddler on this topic, and give it a permalink: >>>> https://meta.tiddlyhost.com/#AvoidingLinkRot. Share link with >>>> friends, to engage their support in taming this dragon! >>>> 2. Recall that "Link Rot" is a well-known problem, which Wikipedia >>>> might know about- and indeed: see >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_rot >>>> 3. Realise that- in keeping w/ principle of AtomicGranularity- i >>>> should probably limit this tiddler to describing the problem (including >>>> link to that Wikipedia article and maybe just my review of that >>>> material) >>>> and rename it after that article: "ProblemOfLinkRot" >>>> 4. Work away on that renamed tiddler, adding my detailed analysis >>>> of the article, and the problem. >>>> 5. Puzzled after a time as to why nobody is commenting on my work, >>>> check the link -and find out that it's broken. (yeesh! and nobody told >>>> me? >>>> did they even click the link i shared?) >>>> >>>> i've run through this loop enough times, it's already getting old. >>>> Could it be that it's just me, i wonder? >>>> >>>> /walt >>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 10:51:28 AM UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ciao walt, >>>>> >>>>> Right. Tiddler PERMALINK-ability posted as URLs elsewhere is >>>>> intimately tied to NOT changing Titles. >>>>> >>>>> Personally I can't get in a hot sweat over that. That is no different >>>>> than any other web page. >>>>> SURE you could get into REDIRECTS on a server or up the complexity >>>>> within TW of self-REDIRECTS I guess? >>>>> >>>>> I don't really see the point though :-). >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> TT >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, 5 May 2021 at 10:34:24 UTC+2 ludwa6 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The more i use TW, the more concerned i become about maintaining data >>>>>> integrity -and so this issue has boiled to the top of my queue: how can >>>>>> i >>>>>> continue to enjoy the benefits of TW (+ Relink plugin) flexibility, >>>>>> without >>>>>> compromising the integrity of Permalinks? >>>>>> >>>>>> This feels like a deep problem that goes right to core TW >>>>>> architecture- since, as PMario explained in last thread >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/kTrAbuneCkA/m/lAsdkriFAgAJ>, >>>>>> tiddler immutability is tied to its Title (so how can Relink even work, >>>>>> i >>>>>> wonder?)- but if i've learned anything here, it is to not underestimate >>>>>> the >>>>>> creative problem-solving ability of this group :-)... SO: >>>>>> >>>>>> From a non-technical perspective, what i'd like to do is have some >>>>>> immutable UID (based on date-time, or maybe date+ a serial number, like >>>>>> yyyy-mm-dd-serialnum) that is used for Permalinks (i.e. shared w/ the >>>>>> outside web that is not Relink-aware), but still have Title field and >>>>>> Relink plugin (and everything else for that matter) work just as it does >>>>>> now, from the TW editor's perspective. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this a reasonable feature design goal, i wonder? If so, i'd like >>>>>> to do what i can to help make it happen! >>>>>> >>>>>> /walt >>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/61315586-5460-4993-a52b-1df085ab26c7n%40googlegroups.com.
