@Tones

You are right in what you are saying, my understanding and designing
capabilities of TW are limited.
A primary purpose of this discussion for me is to learn and understand
more, and another main purpose is to provide user feedbacks to developers.


On Sun, 16 May 2021, 01:54 TW Tones, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Damcal
>
> With respect I think you are mixing the design process with the user
> activity on your wiki. Cloning is a way of rapid duplication and edit, you
> would be far better served using a template or button to build your
> "instances" of a standard tiddler. Fortunately in tiddlywiki we can build
> tools to fix issues generated in the design phase, but these are best just
> one off corrections to the way your wiki is designed. If seems to me you
> are operating as a user a tiddlywiki where the design is not finished, this
> is in part why you feel you need shortcuts such as clone, because many of
> your processes are not as yet automated or simplified (through design).
>
> To me the relink plugin is a great addition, but to rely on it, may
> suggest opportunities for redesign exist.
>
> Tones
>
> On Sunday, 16 May 2021 at 09:21:48 UTC+10 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
>> So it's mostly about renaming things? That's an interesting use case. I
>> guess I have never had the need to do that on a large scale. I wouldn't
>> have expected inheritance to be capable of renaming a field like that,
>> either.
>>
>> I haven't used Tiddler Commander, but renaming a field doesn't really
>> seem like it should be difficult, so perhaps something there could be
>> improved or a new tool could be created.
>>
>> On Friday, May 14, 2021 at 10:43:55 AM UTC-5 damscal wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 1:53:17 PM UTC+2 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>> > It really would be very helpful if you could give an example use case.
>>>
>>> I'll try to:
>>>
>>> 1. Lets say, for instance, that I need to save some contacts info (like
>>> names, email addresses and so on). I'm going to create a tiddler for each
>>> person and populate them with fields to store their contacts info. I can
>>> use the Clone button to statically inherit field keys. But I'm always in a
>>> hurry so I'm not going to figure out a set of fields keys which is going to
>>> be future proof. Later at some point I'll have the need to rename some
>>> field keys (aka field names, not their values), add some, delete some
>>> others.
>>>
>>> 2. Same thing but with tags (relink can be used to rename them, but not
>>> to add or delete them)
>>>
>>> atm to fix problems like these ones I'm using tiddler commander, but the
>>> whole thing is quite time consuming and prone to errors for me.
>>> I think TW and its community are superb, yet I find it difficult to keep
>>> my wikis organized and consistent, which it slows down my workflow.
>>> In contrast I've found Trilium's templates approach more intuitive and
>>> quick in this regard (note that templates are not based on hierarchy).
>>> Trilium is still not as mature and well referenced as TW though.
>>>
>>> Any tips/useful references?
>>>
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