With respect to the tagged templates if you manipulate your view templates
you need not have sepperate templates but use tags to influence way things
appear using the show when and hide when. If you add to this something like
<div class='viewer' macro='tiddler ExtendTask <javascript:;>'></div> then
the contents of ExtendTask and all its macros are rendered with these
tiddlers view. This can include options to edit set field names etc...

I have done this to keep my tiddlers very simple and content laden - if I
tag a tiddler "task" then a range of task buttons appear, if I select 'big
task" then the comment plugin inserts section headings for bigtasks and tags
it bigTask. Then if tagged big task I do not show the "make big task button"
and show a set of menu options to insert lines, text, sliders, urls, check
boxes against the sections in a big task (but not in a simple task).

I have not yet explored the possibilities of this fully but I see no reason
why tiddlywiki could in effect not have a schema, objects, fields
(Global/Local) defined and the referential integrity can also me be managed
using References, WikiLinks etc...

Combine all of the above with custom new tiddler commands that pull content
from "template tiddlers'; FET, MatchTags and other list and sorted tables
plugins and you can create anything.

If you can view it anyway you want, based on any organising principle you
want, you have the ability to mold a sophisticated database, for anything
you want.

Tony


TonyM

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On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 05:40, wolfgang <[email protected]> wrote:

> Xen, have you looked into DataDbPlugin? It makes creation and queries
> of 1-tiddler databases really much more easier.
>
> http://baggr.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Regards.
>
>
> On 26 Mrz., 15:57, "Mark S." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Mar 26, 6:01 am, xen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you both.
> >
> > > BookmarkViewTemplate. I don't really like the idea of
> > > loading the page referenced into an iframe when the
> > > tiddler containing the bookmark is opened. I'd rather
> > > just see the tiddler contents and my own data. I
> >
> > I agree. That's why I made my own template for viewing  bookmarks. I
> > like the idea of a thumbnail image of a site to remind me what the
> > site was like.
> >
> > > Why should your
> > > address book be in addressbook.html and your
> > > bookmarklist be in bookmarks.html?
> >
> > Well, it doesn't. You can just use a different template for viewing
> > the two different types of information.
> >
> > > I notice that my personal "bookmark" structure might
> > > not be as universal as I (tacitly) assumed it was.
> > > Not everone needs "topic", "category" or "summary".
> > > "description" would be more universal. My bookmarks
> > > are all about articles. I should call them "article
> > > bookmarks", "article stubs" or "article nodes". Their
> > > purpose is to enclose the article itself within a
> > > metadata wrapper that provides for me a research
> > > history, research summary, and point of personal
> > > access.  They are really stubs. How to tag them then?
> >
> > You might investigate Zotero if you really need this level of detail.
> > Its hard for a general purpose software like TW to compete with an
> > application-specific design like Zotero.
> >
> > > But what I would like to do is to make the resulting
> > > package so easy to modify that you could even have
> > > two separate systems of bookmarks (one for regular
> > > bookmarks and one for article bookmarks) that share a
> > > common tag ("bookmark") and actually display and/or
> > > manage them using the same interface, as long as they
> > > have some primary fields in common. "article
> > > bookmark" would in that respect be a subclass of
> > > "bookmark".
> >
> > Well, you could write a template that included all the fields, even if
> > they weren't needed for all bookmarks. Or a template that turned on/
> > off fields if you were in one kind of bookmark type. Or, use a naming
> > system (e.g. bookmark1, bookmark2, ) for different kinds of bookmarks.
> >
> > > One question: is putting multiple records into the
> > > same tiddler a Bad Thing? I think the whole slicing
> >
> > TW is based on tiddlers,  which can be thought of as records in other
> > systems. The underlying available code is based on tiddlers. So it
> > just makes sense to set up your data to have one-tiddler-one-record.
> > At least from the programming perspective. The only time it makes
> > sense to veer away from that model is when you have lots of one-item
> > data chunks (like grocery list items).
> >
> > > Actually, Mark, you are also hiding the description
> > > even though it is not a field; how do you retrieve
> > > this data if it's not a slice? Do you use it in your
> > > ViewTemplate?
> >
> > There are slices, and there are sections. Sections are data between
> > headers (!!!) and can hold multiple lines including linebreaks. The
> > description is kept in a section. Think of sections as "memo" or
> > "note" fields in other database systems.
> >
> > The /%...%/ hide the contents from the standard wikifier when viewed
> > without a special template, but don't hide it from code that addresses
> > slices or sections.
> >
> > Mark
>
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