:-) *comfort Eric*
;-). I know that it is (or should be) easy for any person with some knowledge of CSS to modify the stylesheet but I also know that for many people it is not that easy; heck, put 10 random people in a room and if one of them knows HTML, you're lucky. Commercial sites like WikiSpaces embed wysiwyg editors in their wikis to make it easier on new people to start editing a wiki, and they even make it their default editor. To me as a technical person editing wikitext directly is my preferred method because it is cleaner, more powerful, and you know exactly what can and can't be done. But doing graphics work is not easy for me and I know it's not easy for many other people since you need to combine graphical sensitivity with understandings of html and css. It would be great if we could get graphically minded people to work on themes for a software package such as this, but the problem is that they have to be attracted to the software in the first place before they can become enthusiastic about it, and the software as it is attracts mostly technical people. (Such as me). It's cool that the doers are also the ones creating the themes or we wouldn't even be having the software. I'm hoping to finish my theme some day and maybe I can do (convert) others. But there's also a friend who is a webdesigner, maybe I can get him to help me round up the final stages sometime. I don't really enjoy doing it though, I enjoy writing help documents or even macro's or plugins much more. > you seem smart and long winded (academic? student?) Well I used to be a student but I haven't been involved with anything intellectual or technical for some time now... I'm happy that I found this community and that maybe I have something to contribute. So hello: I'm Bart Schouten from the Netherlands and I usually go by the nick of "xen" or "xennex". I used to be a computer science student but I've turned away from that long since and I also have a hard time doing anything mentally challenging because of my weak mental health condition. But as long as I can find joy in being active on this software, I can keep it up. Keeping everything coming in small chunks. ;-). > This is a active and helpful group, who is lucky to have the support > of ELS, FND, Mark S., PMario, Mans & many others I can't think of off > he top of my head. I agree. It seems like a small community of DIYers that is well established (in the software development department) and provides ongoing sustenance for itself and a small band of other users. If I myself could be able to contribute anything then it would be that I would like to adapt or provide ideas for adapting such that this circle of users could be expanded to include more users that have more difficulty gaining access to such a technically oriented software. If I could do anything, then it it would be 1. write documentation 2. envision a better default package or 2b. help develop default "applications" that any user can use out-of- the-box 3. port themes to TW that allow for a default presentation I'm not sure that any of this is going to work out (or can work out) and I'm also not sure that any of you guys (the community) is waiting for something like that. And I'm also not sure that I would be dependable enough to carry it forward (big question there). But my concern is that the software needs a better presentation. - A better default manual - A better default set of "applications" - A better default set of themes This is not so much a criticism as well as a personal vision. I will see if there is anything I can do to aid in this endaevour and if it is well received by you guys. If not, then that's too bad but not a problem. I'm not saying any of the developers "have to" improve things. But I'll just try to see if I can do anything myself, as a hobby project. First I'm gonna see if I can do anything for my self and after that maybe expand on it to potentially help others. I guess I'm being very "assuming" with all of this but this is just what I'm gonna do for now. I think you have a great website Eric with a lot of tools, all reasonably well documented, great building blocks, and they are helping me understand the software and how things work. I have been reading your work more than I have been reading the community wiki ;-). I just hope I will be able to stick around for a while. This may be the ideal hobby project for me. Kudos, Xen > > > I would be gentle on the criticism, might be the same person you are > > asking for help on the next post. > > > Looking forward to your contributions, > > > Good luck with your project, > > > Mike > > > On Mar 28, 11:33 am, Eric Shulman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > standard TW theme or *shudder* those in the theme package of > > > > tiddlytools.com. > > > > grrr... :-) > > > > I have had *many* compliments on the overall appearance of > > > TiddlyTools, so clearly aesthetic sensibilities can vary greatly. > > > > Keep in mind that a 'theme' is really the juxtaposition of template > > > and CSS definitions for layouts and colors (and sometimes images), and > > > it is easy (dare I say *trivial*) to modifiy or eliminate many of the > > > specific styles and layouts to 'fine tune' the theme to best suit your > > > personal tastes. > > > > For example, if you find the 'photo wallpaper' backgrounds too > > > distracting, you can edit the !StyleSheet section of a theme to remove > > > (or simply comment out) the "background-image" attribute/value. > > > > Adjustments to TW default layout and color definitions are stored in > > > [[StyleSheetAdjustments]]. Note that, although the color defintions > > > in this tiddler using static hexadecimal color numbers, you can also > > > use transclusion from the ColorPalette tiddler to apply colors based > > > on custom-defined symbolic names, rather than hard-coded values. For > > > example, to set the color of the tiddler toolbar text you could write: > > > .toolbar {color:[[ColorPalette::TertiaryLight]];} > > > > Then, if you subsequently change the "TertiaryLight" color slice > > > definition, the toolbar text color will automatically be adjusted to > > > match. You can modify the default slices in the ColorPalette, or add > > > slices of your own (using any naming scheme you want). > > > > To make it MUCH easier to construct color palettes... you can use this > > > handy tool: > > > http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#PaletteMaker > > > > Also, to see a simplified, clean layout that is based on the default > > > TW with a number of layout adjustments, see: > > > http://www.TiddlyTools.com/quickstart/basics.html > > > > enjoy, > > > -e > > > Eric Shulman > > > TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "TiddlyWiki" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<tiddlywiki%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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