Hi V, this is a very important topic... I also would like to have the browser storage plugin play a more important role, because for some first-time users it is a deception that their changes are not saved when they return - couchDB could heal this. One setback for noteself was that the service proposed there - cloudant - was bought by ...IBM? and it became more complicated to obtain it.
Another problem is that browser storage is great for personal notetaking but not if your wiki is meant for others (like students and so on....). If you are working on various machines and basically saving to a server, it can have unwanted side effects like Zombi-Tiddlers reappearing after they have been deleted and then saved are back by accident. So I never really used browser storage, and so I cannot say whether the idea is weird: I would like to have a sort of browser storage-on-demand, where you are either asked whether you want to recover from the browser storage in the beginning if there is saved content that is not in the server-version. Best wishes Jan P.S. It would be great to continue this discussion on https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ It took me some time to find out why I could not reply in the there. mcdermott...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 22. November 2021 um 17:26:29 UTC+1: > I can't speak for everyone, only myself. When I picked TiddlyWiki several > years ago, I imposed the following constraints on myself (brief reason in > square brackets): > > * Lightweight text markup that included hyperlinking [these are among the > things that separate the solution from text-only] > * Searchable > * Open source [the content I generate for myself is too important to me > for it to go dark if a startup shutters] > * Offline-first [travel or an internet outage shouldn't completely > separate me from my "second brain"] > > The first two are basic notetaking sorts of things, but the other two are > why I use the default file saver with TiddlyDesktop. A single file + > synchronization happens to be among the easier ways (to me) of > accomplishing offline first. Everything is a trade-off. > > I will say that document databases are a dime a dozen. Plain text and HTML > are probably the two most stable interfaces in technology today. I (and, I > suspect, a great deal of TiddlyWiki's user base) value that sort of > stability. > On Monday, November 22, 2021 at 4:26:58 AM UTC-6 V wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I have been following the TW project for years and I am still very >> surprised that the community continues to actively support super strange, >> inconvenient and limited ways of saving and synchronizing – but at the same >> time all developments using normal technologies on which synchronization >> could be easy, seamless and safe, such as CouchDB, are not supported in >> official release and abandoned by community. >> >> Especially considering the new data storage format in JSON, with which >> synchronization with object databases has never been easier. It's even >> easier than maintaining the current server solution on files, which in >> principle cannot work offline, unlike a solution based on >> IndexedDB+PouchDB→CouchDB or IndexedDB→Mongo/Posrgres. >> >> I have used PouchDB adapter from NoteSelf, but it's outdated and contains >> a lot of bugs. Other solutions were outdated even earlier. >> >> If IndexedDB/CouchDB solution were supported out of the box, there would >> be no reason at all to use paid solutions like Evernote or Notion for >> personal notes. >> >> Based on discussions & repo, it seems that no movement in this direction >> is planned. >> >> I have only one question – why? >> Is it really more convenient for everyone to save files in Dropbox using >> crutches, constantly losing changes between devices and merging conflicts? >> >> Are these some kind of ideological reasons? >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9d088608-b5c3-4fba-8ff7-ba9d68fa305bn%40googlegroups.com.
