> Sorry but it's not Tobias behind this. Anything 'theme-beautiful' > there are thanks to his Pearl theme (see #CRED). Anything less pretty > is me :-)
Apologies Matias. That CRED tiddler might be better called "Credits", perhaps? >> [...]the community would benefit as it would >> allow us to present a much more unified, one stop shop for users. >> >> I have some thoughts in terms of how that community could work in the >> context of TiddlySpace, and I think TiddlyWorld fits in nicely. > > GREAT to hear! Does this mean it is in the pipeline for Osmosoft? If > Osmo or any other individual authority in the community already has > plans for this in a not too distant future then I'd be more than happy > to let this rest. The current attempt is difficult in that I'm neither > a name here nor a coder and thus lack credibility and competence. My > approach to deal with this is a hope for competent people to > understand what a valuable project it is (for the community) and > support it. How I envisage it is that TiddlySpace itself is a fabric that supports individual interactions. Osmosoft will kick-start curating the front page site, but the whole point is that rather than having "THE" community site, we'd have a plethora of sites focussing on different aspects of the community, created from different perspectives. Users would enter this world through the front page in the first place but would in due course, like Twitter, build their own community networks. All of this is possible because of the way that TiddlySpace allows the inclusion of spaces, so that people can curate community sites that bring together the best of the material that they like. Already in TiddlyWiki we're blessed with some fantastic community resources that have been lovingly curated by people like Dave Gifford. All I'm imagining is that that process will continue, with the difference that people will be able to weave their own communities. For example, Dickon's work involves training end-users to use TiddlySpace. They won't necessarily be using all the features, just simple stuff like navigating between tiddlers, and perhaps adding and removing tags. Rather than writing a new manual from scratch, TiddlySpace will let Dickon bring together a subset of the wider community documentation and hence present a simpler experience to his end users. (I use the future tense because there's currently no user interface available for filtered space inclusion). > Whoever and hower it is manifested, my only concern is that it should > be MUCH more user centric than the "hacker creations" we see today > (GREAT as they are, in their own way!!!). Something more "main > stream", for Jack'n Jill. Like what Apple Inc would do with it ;-) Absolutely. There is a continuum from the very technical material to the introductory/guide material. I believe it's reasonable for TiddlyWiki/Space to have a single, authoritative source for the truly technical documentation, but at the other end of the scale I've found that people need, and naturally generate, a plurality of material to cover the different perspectives that end users will have. > Your/the 'curation' approach to avoid spam and moderation sounds > fantastic! You describe a Q & A type scenario, which reminds me of > http://wiki.answers.com/ > but do you think it would be applicable to a discussion forum? The point that I'm trying to make is that TiddlySpace itself is designed to support discussion through its social features, notably following and activity streams. The only sense that we need to "build" a discussion forum is that we need to make the user interface have clearer signposts for users to discover how actions on conventional systems like bulletin boards work on TiddlySpace. > For something as complex as a TW based discussion forum, is the plan > that TSpace enables blocking of posts (tiddlers) from individuals? I.e > "I include space X but I dislike individual Y so don't show his > posts"? (This isn't possible today, is it?) That is correct, it will be possible to filter space inclusion on a number of criteria. It is actually already possible beneath the hood, there just isn't a user interface implemented yet. > I agree but, hm, are you implying this lessens the need for a central > place? The more showcases, applications, tiddlers and anything - the > more we need a central place to inform of WHERE to find those > showcases. And HOW. And even WHY, i.e why is "A better than B" (meta- > data), etc. I see the role for a central hub to be similar to the role of the twitter.com homepage: it can showcase material and provide jumping off points to explore the world of TiddlySpace. I'd like to evolve some kind of reasonably democratic process so that people can get their spaces featured, and it might be interesting to have things like trending topics, again, like Twitter. >> The basic principles are: >> * people only ever change or add content to their own space. Unlike >> MyBB, there are no shared spaces that can be abused by spammers or the >> antisocial > > (Note: http://tiddlyworld.tiddlyspace.com/ doesn't refer to MyBB but > rather the community site http://www.mybb.com/ ) In either case, the system works by providing a common area into which people post their questions. The model of TiddlySpace is different in that people can only write into their own spaces. >> * people can create derived works based on material published from >> other spaces, including rich filtering and sorting > > To what extent is this possible today in TSpace? Is for instance any > automatic filtering possible? Filtering can only be done by manually altering the underlying TiddlyWeb recipes. Any changes will currently get overwritten if any of the TiddlySpace user interface facilities for manipulating space inclusion is used. Cheers Jeremy > Great input everyone and do please state your Tspace ID so it can be > added to: > > http://tiddlyworld.tiddlyspace.com/ > > > :-) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. > > -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:[email protected] http://www.tiddlywiki.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
