On Oct 12, 4:25 pm, Verrehaal <[email protected]> wrote:
> TiddlySpace specific:
> ***7) I'd really like a way to automatically keep the collaborators up to 
> date without needing them to browser-login to the space each time. Google 
> tells me that password-authenticated RSS feed systems exist. It would rock if 
> TS had this.

It is possible to access private content now, but it is not well
supported by all feed readers. If you construct the URL like this:

    
http://<user>:<password>@<space>.tiddlyspace.com/recipes/<space>_private/tiddlers.atom

However, as I said, not all readers support this, and even those that
do will not necessarily use the information on the first request. The
other thing to keep in mind is that with this construct your username
and password is being stored in the feed reader.

There are plans to allow access to private things via hashed urls.
See: http://tiddlyspace.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BPrivate%20Space%20Feed%5D%5D

> *9) Username/space issues:
>   9a> It would be good if people could login with just an openID (if listed 
> as members of the space).

If I'm understanding what you're after here it's that you want people
to be able to log in _just_ with openid without needing to register
first. Is that correct?

That's not currently supported because the whole point of TiddlySpace
is to provide a platform in which people with a local identity can
participate in multiple spaces and have their own space which is the
starting point of their own discoursive exercises across the breadth
of tiddlyspace.

>   9b> Alternatively, allow subscription to TS without the creation of a 
> space. The most obvious choice of username for my collaborators is something 
> like GivennameSurname, but they may not like for there to be a 
> GivennameSurname.tiddlyspace.com website around.

This has come up a number of times, but see my paragraph just above.

>   9c> I was in such a situation myself and deleted that first space (by 
> including deleted), but (1) it's still there (I suppose it'll be purged at 
> some point) and (2) I didn't set up a SiteIcon then, meaning I'm now stuck 
> with the stick figure avatar for my username. It might be good to decouple 
> user profile management a bit more from space management.

There is currently not _real_ support for deleting spaces. The method
you used is a proposed method for allowing a space to be abandoned but
there is, as yet, no followup cleanup. The discussions surround that
issue tailed off.

Again, having a user associated with a space that is theirs is
intentional. On the web the stuff that says who you are is the content
you create and link to. Therefore you identity in TiddlySpace is your
space, the spaces you are a member of, and the content you create in
those spaces.

> *10) Undemocratic though it be, I'm not really happy with how all members of 
> the space must have equal rights. It would be nicer if the 'owner' of the 
> space could grant or withold rights. Consider that my other members will 
> likely not invest much time in learning TW and so deletion accidents are a 
> danger; one can think of plenty more unhappy scenarios.

I believe Jeremy provided a pretty good answer to this which I mostly
agree with.

The one access control state that I think we may wish to rethink is
"readable by some, writeable by some fewer". Something in between the
current public and private[1].

However, underneath the simple public/private setup that TiddlySpace
provides is the full flexibility of the TiddlyWeb policy system which
can control read, write, create and delete constraints on any bag of
tiddlers with roles and users.

> Thank you for your patience!

Thank you for yours.

[1] TiddlyHoster reifies this as a "protected" concept: Any member of
the entire system can read. See http://hoster.peermore.com/

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