On Oct 14, 11:05 pm, twgrp <[email protected]> wrote: > Formerly known under a different name, the Community space is > unfolding. We now have; > > http://community.tiddlyspace.com > - intended to be "more or less a one-stop-shop" community portal > andhttp://communityweb.tiddlyspace.com > - for development issues concerning the community portal As I wrote in the other post about tiddlyworld main menu. Please keep the "tiddlyworld" space for the "real" content and move its existing "dev/example" content into an other space. I think the name tiddlyworld is much cooler than community or communityweb.
> > > Would it fulfill its purpose as more or less a one-stop-shop community > > > site? one-stop-shop ... nice. But it doesn't mean, that every content has to be written inside tiddlyworlds space. Including works very well allready. I am pretty sure, that there will be some possibilities to filter tiddlers from other spaces and include them, in the future. I personally want to use my own layout, because I like it. But on the other hand I may like some content, that is published on other spaces. So I include them and display them with attribution to the author. My visitors, get my point of view. > > If it were designed for that purpose, it might. Not to be nitpicking, > > but the menu as it is now does not give that impression. > > Hm, what do you suggest to change? I do agree the graphics are > amateurish, but menu content? I think the menues will evolve, when content evolves. At the moment, ther is a very well thought project description. That now needs to be turned into the desired content. > I can see benefit in iframing (as you suggest) .. I can't. I don't like it. > .. but for this very > google group that is established and that has archived posts. > Introducing a new forum software would lose out both on the TW linking > and the TW self containment and on the archive aspect. And the easy > customization. There are some tests going on, using TSpace as a forum. But I think, there is still a lot of work to do there. > But iframing this google group and perhaps some kind of "suggestion > with voting" thing as an intermediary solution (instead of static > images), sure! I don't like this. The comments plugin works quite well with tiddlyspace. It could be used. But there is the disadvantage of easy spamming, because everyone needs to have write access to the groups space. If you reply to a topic at the moment, you write to your own space and the "descussion" software "collects" the topics. If you produce spam, then you only spam your own account. For the others disabling a spammer is easy. Delete the follow tag, or delete the spammersName tiddler. Done > > Another way might be to have those notes or comments on content in > > TiddlyWorld work similar to the "Talks" section in my Space...(see > > "What everyone says right now..."). > > YEAH!!!!! Are the conversations imported or are they taking place in > your space? Does/can it have the same features as, say, this google > group? You mention a tScan macro to "fetch all comments" - from where? > Do you think you could add this to the community site? The problem here is, that at the moment, only topics are fetched, from spaces, that you follow. The following space has the macros that are needed. > > In order to make that work properly it would be > > good if there were global, user specific variables in tiddlyspace > > which would allow one to define ones own comments-space to be be used > > for taking notes and comments in TiddlyWorld and which could be used > > for creating the link that opens your space with a new, not existing > > tiddler, already given the proper name, maybe including the current > > contents of that page in a blockquote... just like the "reply" button > > does today. I made some tests. But they faild, because you need to follow someone to get the activity stream. And you have to use your home space to get all the activities. I like the name groupie for a space that follows everyone :) > Yes! Do I understand you right in that this is a request that must be > made to the tiddlyspace dev team? Or would it be a separate plugin > thing? Regardless... it is beyond me. <<activity>> macro and it's sisters and brothers from http://following.tiddlyspace.com > > On the other hand... notes or even a forum using TypeWith.Me seem a > > really appealing and painless variant. I have installed typeWith.me at my teamwork experiment. http://hoster.peermore.com/recipes/TeamWork/tiddlers.wiki#2010.05.04%4013%3A30%3A27 It wasn't great success. But it is painless, and I also found a possibility to have group only or even private access. > It even looks TW'ish. However, it seems to address something totally > different, i.e "live text collaboration". I'm not sure how that is > relevenat - or am I just not imaginative enough? When would that type > of live collaboration be relevant? And are you saying it should be > instead of a forum? I don't understand. I think, it can not be used as a forum replacement. It was designed, and should be used as a real time collaborative document creation tool, for trusted groups. If the document fits the needs, it has to be copy/pasted into a tiddler. Since there is no other way to save it. It can be used as an IRC replacement, where everyone can write at the same time, to different places. Which is great fun, but also needs some discipline. And it is easy to get angry, at someone else, if they overwrite your stuff, and you see it. But replay and undo is possible. So you don't lose it. regards mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
