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Alex On 6 May 2011 10:55, Alex Hough <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Mario, > > For me i think the advantage is that there is less complexity. > * closer to using traditional TW - less learning to do. No including > spaces, less plugins > * faster - i know the lag is small on TiddlySpace, but letting dropbox > sync in the background is quicker > * safer - i've lost data in TiddlySpace - don't know why, but with > autosave and backups with dropbox I feel safe. > > !! Observations on TiddlySpace > > I followed your links to the April1111 tiddlyspace and the > manefesto2. And tried to respond. I followed the spaces and replied to > the tiddlers - but i don't think i got far. There is not a lot of > activity there, indicating -- to me - that despite huge enthusiasm, > the system is still not working for its intended purpose - as a > vehicle for social discourse. I found it hard to read. > > !! A really fast note-taking system > > I liked Blane's comments - something like " i want a really fast > note-taking system" : this is what I want too. > But there seem a lack of discourse like activity from these spaces > purposed for TS metadiscourse [1]. Part of it - for me - is that there > is too much information and perspectives for me to process. After all, > TW is not my job (open to offers though) and I can't afford to spend > the time getting involved with the TS team more than I do. Many issues > are complex, i'd have to learn a lot before i could understand the > discourse and make a contirbution. But I do use TW for notemaking in > meetings, and exploring and developing ideas. > > !! Lots of Tweets for Dropbox and TW > > I use Tweatdeck to read twitter feeds. I have a search for TiddlyWiki, > and there are many messages talking about dropbox and TW. I remembered > Udo include plugin from way back, now we have dropbox i think it comes > into its own. Using a dropbox also helps if you want to share images > and other files - pdfs (I know they are bad ) but lots of accademic > papers are in this format. You can even host video in dropbox and use > Erics media player plugin. Its good when the vids you want to share > need to be private and you don't want to use vimeo or YouTube. TW and > dropbox is getting more attention that TS at the moment, so I thought > it would be good to investigate. > > RSS reader works when the TW is local too. JayFresh wrote a nice > plugin that Bauwe discovered - it makes tiddlers from RSS feeds - very > nice. > > In terms of privacy and security in the context of teamwork, i like > the 'feel' of sharing a dropbox. You actually have the other person's > TW in a local file, so you could change it. I think putting the > emphasis on the human side of collaboration - establishing conventions > though experimentation in notemaking and sharing - is good. Perhaps > the interest in technology and UI of TiddlySpace is secondary to > working with notes - sketch ideas, half formed, irregular, on the edge > of having any meaning, yet being a spark for a memory. I > > Following a Skype with Bauwe, I discovered that his first trade is as > a wood worker specialising in boat construction. He's refered to TW as > 'good material' , referring to the TW as something with a form that > can be constantly manipulated and formed. I liked this, and after he > asked me if i'd ever made something from wood i answered 'no'. But > later that day, i had do cut a tree down in my garden. As I cut it to > so that it could fit into the recycling bin, i noticed there were > different types of branch and twig. I was soon sorting them, and fresh > from thinking about TW with Bauwe, thought about TW while making a > kind of house / sculpture for my daughter. > > Anyway, to cut a long story short, i too like the view that "TW is > good material" - the playing with it while making non-linear notes > becomes part of the creative process, but the ideas must have value. > > !! Small Tools and Backdoors > I think TW is a very good small tool in a collection small tools - > (gmail chat worked well with dropbox tw) last night, the google > groups, e-mail, twitter, rss. TiddlySpace provides options for sharing > text and collaboration, for me it feels too big. Word, E-mail > attachments, spreadsheets are a part of my life as well as TW. Other > people use them, I can't get people to try TW. I have got people to > share dropbox though. They might end up using TW via a "Dropbox > backdoor. > > ALex > > [1] Metadiscourse note: I think that it needs to be acknowledged that > there is a variety of communication channels. I think metadiscourse is > messy and is distributed in many contexts and activities - it has to > be for it to be successful otherwise it just reflects the media from > which it is crafted. If the metadiscourse's context is about the tool > for the discourse, then there are too many openings for errors - only > preventable by using increasingly dense language and hypertext. > > > On 6 May 2011 07:40, PMario <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Alex, >> >> What would be the advantage of dropbox over TiddlySpace [1], which is >> designed for TW collaboration? >> >> -m >> [1] http://tiddlyspace.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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