Jeremy > The interesting pattern for me would therefore be to explode the > TiddlyWiki file into separate files for each tiddler, stored alongside > the associated file attachments.
Could you explain a bit more.Do you mean separate files for each tiddler? Maybe you could make a demo? I'm keen to test. best wishes Alex >The individual files would lend > themselves to DropBox's own facilities for managing revisions and > sharing with other users. The TiddlyWiki file would maintain pointers > to the tiddler files (perhaps allowing the inclusion of individual > tiddler files, or entire directories of files). Lazy loading could be > used to defer loading individual tiddler files until required. > > Best wishes > > Jeremy > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Alex Hough <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Mario, >> >> For me i think the advantage is that there is less complexity. >> * closer to using traditional TW - less learning to do. No including >> spaces, less plugins >> * faster - i know the lag is small on TiddlySpace, but letting dropbox >> sync in the background is quicker >> * safer - i've lost data in TiddlySpace - don't know why, but with >> autosave and backups with dropbox I feel safe. >> >> !! Observations on TiddlySpace >> >> I followed your links to the April1111 tiddlyspace and the >> manefesto2. And tried to respond. I followed the spaces and replied to >> the tiddlers - but i don't think i got far. There is not a lot of >> activity there, indicating -- to me - that despite huge enthusiasm, >> the system is still not working for its intended purpose - as a >> vehicle for social discourse. I found it hard to read. >> >> !! A really fast note-taking system >> >> I liked Blane's comments - something like " i want a really fast >> note-taking system" : this is what I want too. >> But there seem a lack of discourse like activity from these spaces >> purposed for TS metadiscourse [1]. Part of it - for me - is that there >> is too much information and perspectives for me to process. After all, >> TW is not my job (open to offers though) and I can't afford to spend >> the time getting involved with the TS team more than I do. Many issues >> are complex, i'd have to learn a lot before i could understand the >> discourse and make a contirbution. But I do use TW for notemaking in >> meetings, and exploring and developing ideas. >> >> !! Lots of Tweets for Dropbox and TW >> >> I use Tweatdeck to read twitter feeds. I have a search for TiddlyWiki, >> and there are many messages talking about dropbox and TW. I remembered >> Udo include plugin from way back, now we have dropbox i think it comes >> into its own. Using a dropbox also helps if you want to share images >> and other files - pdfs (I know they are bad ) but lots of accademic >> papers are in this format. You can even host video in dropbox and use >> Erics media player plugin. Its good when the vids you want to share >> need to be private and you don't want to use vimeo or YouTube. TW and >> dropbox is getting more attention that TS at the moment, so I thought >> it would be good to investigate. >> >> RSS reader works when the TW is local too. JayFresh wrote a nice >> plugin that Bauwe discovered - it makes tiddlers from RSS feeds - very >> nice. >> >> In terms of privacy and security in the context of teamwork, i like >> the 'feel' of sharing a dropbox. You actually have the other person's >> TW in a local file, so you could change it. I think putting the >> emphasis on the human side of collaboration - establishing conventions >> though experimentation in notemaking and sharing - is good. Perhaps >> the interest in technology and UI of TiddlySpace is secondary to >> working with notes - sketch ideas, half formed, irregular, on the edge >> of having any meaning, yet being a spark for a memory. I >> >> Following a Skype with Bauwe, I discovered that his first trade is as >> a wood worker specialising in boat construction. He's refered to TW as >> 'good material' , referring to the TW as something with a form that >> can be constantly manipulated and formed. I liked this, and after he >> asked me if i'd ever made something from wood i answered 'no'. But >> later that day, i had do cut a tree down in my garden. As I cut it to >> so that it could fit into the recycling bin, i noticed there were >> different types of branch and twig. I was soon sorting them, and fresh >> from thinking about TW with Bauwe, thought about TW while making a >> kind of house / sculpture for my daughter. >> >> Anyway, to cut a long story short, i too like the view that "TW is >> good material" - the playing with it while making non-linear notes >> becomes part of the creative process, but the ideas must have value. >> >> !! Small Tools and Backdoors >> I think TW is a very good small tool in a collection small tools - >> (gmail chat worked well with dropbox tw) last night, the google >> groups, e-mail, twitter, rss. TiddlySpace provides options for sharing >> text and collaboration, for me it feels too big. Word, E-mail >> attachments, spreadsheets are a part of my life as well as TW. Other >> people use them, I can't get people to try TW. I have got people to >> share dropbox though. They might end up using TW via a "Dropbox >> backdoor. >> >> ALex >> >> [1] Metadiscourse note: I think that it needs to be acknowledged that >> there is a variety of communication channels. I think metadiscourse is >> messy and is distributed in many contexts and activities - it has to >> be for it to be successful otherwise it just reflects the media from >> which it is crafted. If the metadiscourse's context is about the tool >> for the discourse, then there are too many openings for errors - only >> preventable by using increasingly dense language and hypertext. >> >> >> On 6 May 2011 07:40, PMario <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>> What would be the advantage of dropbox over TiddlySpace [1], which is >>> designed for TW collaboration? >>> >>> -m >>> [1] http://tiddlyspace.com >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "TiddlyWiki" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. >> >> > > > > -- > Jeremy Ruston > mailto:[email protected] > http://www.tiddlywiki.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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