Hi Vincent,
Very strange. May be others can have a look at my MTC [1] and report
of they see the 'E' and 'C' buttons or only the 'C'. button.
I don't know if it helps but I observed the following for a local
file:
FF16:
With TWTable and TWted both enabled I only see the 'C' button.
With TWted disabled (option) I only see the 'C' button.
With TWted and TETable both disabled I still see the 'C' button
although the table has the "non-editable" appearance ('small' table
without thick borders)
I do see exactly the same with Safari 5.1, Opera 12 portable and
Google Chrome portable 17.
If I use the Dropbox link [1] FF and Safari behave the same (I see
only the 'C' button); with Chrome I can't access my Dropbox file
(error).
[1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143.html
On Nov 2, 4:38 pm, Vincent Yeh <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ton & Yakov,
>
> It seems to me that you are facing the same problem, but I am afraid this
> is not an easy one for me (maybe easy for someone else) because Ton's MTC
> file works normally with my FF16.02 / Win7x64 (and Opera 12.02 / Win7x64 as
> well, see attachment). Well, to be precise it works only if saved locally.
> It has the same problem if opened over the internet.
>
> I have no idea how to debug under such a situation.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, November 2, 2012 10:22:24 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> > Hi Vincent,
>
> > I made a MTC as before (Win7 x64, FF16, TW v2.6.6, TWTable v1.4.3,
> > TWted v1.4.3), see [1]
> > After reloading the backstage button is present, but with a table only
> > the 'C' button can be seen. The 'E' button can't be seen so edit is
> > not possible.
>
> > FYI: The latest "combined" version TableEdit v1.3.12 does also work
> > with the plugins mentioned in my last post.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Ton
>
> > [1]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143.html
>
> > On Nov 2, 11:03 am, Yakov <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Ok, I found out what's the problem: it's with CSS -- the C button hovers
> > > over the E button, so it's practically "invisible", see the screenshot
> > of
> > > inspection (it stays in the latest versions).
>
> > > Also, TWtable + TWted add unnecessary scroller to every table. This may
> > be
> > > connected with the following thing (can be seen on the same screenshot):
> > > the additional thicker border is only at the top, bottom and left, but
> > not
> > > at the right; though, inspection shows that the wrapper has normal width
> > > (not wider than the table).
>
> > > Take you time, Vincent! We'll be patient :)
>
> > > пятница, 2 ноября 2012 г., 11:47:06 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh
> > написал:
>
> > > > Yakov & Ton,
>
> > > > Thank you both very much for the feedback and suggestions. Ton your
> > test
> > > > file helped me quickly identified the cause to the missing backstage
> > > > problem: ignorance of shadowed tiddlers in TWtable. It is now fixed in
> > the
> > > > next release (see below). It seems to fix the "blocking saveChanges()"
> > > > issue as well (Ton please help verify this), but I am not sure if that
> > also
> > > > fixed Yakov's problem that TWtable+TWted combo don't work in Win7 x64.
> > > > Yakov please try and tell me the results.
>
> > > > Other things will have to wait, as I must devote my time into other
> > things
> > > > for a while.
>
> > > > TWtable v1.4.3
>
> > > > - (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable.min
> > > > - (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable
>
> > > > - Bug fix for missing backstage and blocking of saveChanges().
> > > > - The missing backstage happens for TW files that start with
> > the
> > > > default GettingStarted tiddler or any other shadowed
> > tiddlers,
> > > > because TWtable does not touch any shadowed tiddlers. It
> > doesn't
> > > > even try to find it, which resulted in a null value for a
> > > > shadowed tiddler and then an exception thrown when TWtable is
> > > > retrieving its title (to find its containing DOM element). If
> > this happened
> > > > when loading the DefaultTiddler then the backstage, which
> > comes
> > > > up after that, would have got no chance to load up.
> > > > - I did not notice this because it did not happen to my own
> > > > minimal test file, which does not start with any of the
> > shadowed tiddlers.
> > > > *But this should have happened since transclusion
> > > > synchronization was implemented. Why it did not? Or it did?*
> > > > - Some more bug fixes for sorting with SortableGridPlugin and
> > > > TableSortingPlugin.
> > > > - These bugs were partly introduced in codes to fix
> > rows/columns
> > > > and the code splitting. *Hope there are not much left*...
>
> > > > - Changed back to normal font size for table caption.
>
> > > > TWted v1.4.3
>
> > > > - (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWted.min
> > > > - (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWted
> > > > - Set default text-alignment of a table cell to inherit.
> > > > - Removed some dead codes.
>
> > > > TWtcalc v0.7.3
>
> > > > - (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtcalc.min
> > > > - (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtcalc
> > > > - Defined ROWS() and COLS()/COLUMNS() functions, which counts
> > the
> > > > number of rows/columns within a range of cells.
> > > > - Bugs fixed for COLUMN()/COL() and COLUMNA()/COLA() functions.
> > > > - These bugs were introduced in codes supporting absolute
> > > > references.
> > > > - Bug fixed with ROUND() function.
> > > > - It was returning NaN when the argument results in 0.
>
> > > > Have Fun!
> > > > Vincent
>
> > > > On Friday, November 2, 2012 2:02:38 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> > > >> Hi Vincent,
>
> > > >> I had not much time to test the new versions, but I am using version
> > > >> 1.3.10 daily with much pleasure. Editing tables is so easy now; it
> > > >> saves me a lot of time.
>
> > > >> First test with the split versions was not a success (Win7 x64,
> > FF16):
> > > >> I used the Minimal Test Case made for TableEdit v 1.3.9 (TW v2.6.5
> > > >> with config.options.chkAutoSave = true; in a systemConfig tagged
> > > >> tiddler), added TWTable v1.4.2-1 and TWted v1.4.2, tagged them
> > > >> systemConfig and deleted TableEdit v1.3.9.
> > > >> At that moment I realized autosave was not working (I cannot recall
> > > >> exactly when it stopped), but manual saving was not possible either.
> > > >> With help of the bookmarklet "Save current storeArea contents to
> > > >> clipboard" from TiddlyTools I could restore the TW but now the
> > > >> backstage button had disappeared.
> > > >> Anyway, I could edit my sample table.
> > > >> May be its a coincidence, but both problems (autosave/backstage
> > > >> button) appeared in earlier versions of TableEdit (before the split).
>
> > > >> So I started from scratch and checked if autosave worked after every
> > > >> change.
> > > >> * empty TW v2.6.6
> > > >> * Added systemConfig tagged tiddler with config.options.chkAutoSave =
> > > >> true;
> > > >> * Added TWtable tagged with systemConfig
> > > >> Up till then everything was OK, but after reloading the TW the
> > > >> backstage button had disappeared (the same in Chrome 17 portable)
> > > >> * Added a tiddler with a table.
> > > >> Table could be edited.
> > > >> See MTC [1]
>
> > > >> I did not do any further tests.
>
> > > >> For your information, the following plugins work together with
> > > >> TableEdit v1.3.10:
> > > >> DropDownMenuPlugin 2.1
> > > >> GotoPlugin 1.9.2
> > > >> ImageSizePlugin 1.2.3
> > > >> ImportTiddlersPlugin 4.6.2
> > > >> InlineJavascriptPlugin 1.9.6
> > > >> ListFiltrPlugin 0.9.1 Beta
> > > >> NestedSlidersPlugin 2.4.9
> > > >> QuickEditPlugin 2.4.4
> > > >> QuickNotePlugin 2.1.0
> > > >> QuickOpenTagPlugin 3.0.1a
> > > >> RenameTagsPlugin 3.0 ($Rev: 5501 $)
> > > >> SaveAndReloadMacro 1.0
> > > >> SearchOptionsPlugin 3.0.10
> > > >> SimpleMessagePlugin 0.1
> > > >> TabEditPlugin 0.32
> > > >> TableOfContentsPlugin 2.4.3
> > > >> TagSearchPlugin 1.2.0 (2010-10-10)
> > > >> TagsplorerMacro 1.3.3
> > > >> TiddlerTweakerPlugin 2.4.5
> > > >> TiddlersBarPluginMP 1.2.5
> > > >> TiddlyFileImportr 0.2.7
> > > >> ToggleTagPlugin 3.1.0a
> > > >> YourSearchPlugin 2.1.6 (2012-04-19)
>
> > > >> Note: there are 2 search plugins installed. I can switch between
> > them,
> > > >> but mainly use YourSearchPlugin. Both worked together with TableEdit.
>
> > > >> Cheers,
>
> > > >> Ton
>
> > > >> [1]
> >https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable142-1_TWted142.html
>
> > > >> On Nov 1, 6:40 pm, Yakov <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> > Vincent,
>
> > > >> > > Thanks a lot for the feedback. Currently I do not have time to
> > work
> > > >> on
> > > >> > > these plugins so you will need to wait a while for the next
> > upgrade.
> > > >> Here
> > > >> > > are a few quick replies I can make at this moment.
>
> > > >> > That's ok, for current use TableEditor 1.3.12 seems to be good
> > enough.
>
> > > >> > > Both Opera 12.02 and FireFox 16.02 work in my Win7 x64 (running
> > in
> > > >> > > VirtualBox 4.1.22 r80657 over Ubuntu 12.04) with TWtable+TWted,
> > so I
> > > >> am
> > > >> > > guessing there might be a plugin conflict in your system. Could
> > you
> > > >> try to
> > > >> > > verify this?
>
> > > >> > No, it's definitely not a plugin conflict as for testing I use
> > separate
> > > >> > "repositories", where only TableEditor (couple of versions) and
> > others
> > > >> > (TWted, TWted.min etc) are stored, and only one set is active (i.e.
> > > >> when I
> > > >> > test TableEditor, TWted and others have systemConfigDisable, when I
> > > >> test
> > > >> > TWted + TWtable, others get the tag).
>
> > > >> > And I also noticed that TWtcalc.min is not hiding all its codes,
> > which
> > > >> is
>
> > > >> > > due to the use of percentage symbol (%) in the recently modified
> > > >> COUNT()
> > > >> > > function. Maybe will switch to another symbol...
>
> > > >> > Well, you can try @@display:none .... @@ wrapper instead of /% ....
> > %/,
> > > >> I
> > > >> > think this will work.
>
> > > >> > > I see. That was my mistake! Guess I should change it to
> > > >> TWtable.min... or
> > > >> > > just remove it and show a warning message if TWtable (or
> > TWtable.min)
> > > >> is
> > > >> > > not installed (because people can choose to install either
> > one)...
>
> > > >> > This depends on the plugin mechnism. The
>
> ...
>
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