Yakov, Cookie history is a very good point! But my FF still works normally after removing cookies, and my Opera does not have a cookie history because I only installed it a couple of days ago.
The same folder issue is cleared as the same file still works at another folder. However, from your screenshot I did suspect something and made two files in my Dropbox's public folder for testing, please try and see if one of them works. 1. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--01.html 2. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--02.html Vincent On Saturday, November 3, 2012 6:39:20 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: > > Well, first if you can reproduce the problem over http, that's already > kind of an option. Next, where do you place Ton's TW? In the same folder as > your dev TWs? I mean, although that's unlikely, there can be some forgotten > cookie-option (may be you renamed something like "enable TWted" and didn't > accounted that somewhere in your code, but as your browsers already have > those cookies with old names and values, everything works), could it be so? > > пятница, 2 ноября 2012 г., 19:38:08 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: >> >> Ton & Yakov, >> >> It seems to me that you are facing the same problem, but I am afraid this >> is not an easy one for me (maybe easy for someone else) because Ton's MTC >> file works normally with my FF16.02 / Win7x64 (and Opera 12.02 / Win7x64 as >> well, see attachment). Well, to be precise it works only if saved locally. >> It has the same problem if opened over the internet. >> >> I have no idea how to debug under such a situation. >> Any suggestions? >> >> Vincent >> >> On Friday, November 2, 2012 10:22:24 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote: >>> >>> Hi Vincent, >>> >>> I made a MTC as before (Win7 x64, FF16, TW v2.6.6, TWTable v1.4.3, >>> TWted v1.4.3), see [1] >>> After reloading the backstage button is present, but with a table only >>> the 'C' button can be seen. The 'E' button can't be seen so edit is >>> not possible. >>> >>> FYI: The latest "combined" version TableEdit v1.3.12 does also work >>> with the plugins mentioned in my last post. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Ton >>> >>> [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143.html >>> >>> On Nov 2, 11:03 am, Yakov <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Ok, I found out what's the problem: it's with CSS -- the C button >>> hovers >>> > over the E button, so it's practically "invisible", see the screenshot >>> of >>> > inspection (it stays in the latest versions). >>> > >>> > Also, TWtable + TWted add unnecessary scroller to every table. This >>> may be >>> > connected with the following thing (can be seen on the same >>> screenshot): >>> > the additional thicker border is only at the top, bottom and left, but >>> not >>> > at the right; though, inspection shows that the wrapper has normal >>> width >>> > (not wider than the table). >>> > >>> > Take you time, Vincent! We'll be patient :) >>> > >>> > пятница, 2 ноября 2012 г., 11:47:06 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh >>> написал: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > Yakov & Ton, >>> > >>> > > Thank you both very much for the feedback and suggestions. Ton your >>> test >>> > > file helped me quickly identified the cause to the missing backstage >>> > > problem: ignorance of shadowed tiddlers in TWtable. It is now fixed >>> in the >>> > > next release (see below). It seems to fix the "blocking >>> saveChanges()" >>> > > issue as well (Ton please help verify this), but I am not sure if >>> that also >>> > > fixed Yakov's problem that TWtable+TWted combo don't work in Win7 >>> x64. >>> > > Yakov please try and tell me the results. >>> > >>> > > Other things will have to wait, as I must devote my time into other >>> things >>> > > for a while. >>> > >>> > > TWtable v1.4.3 >>> > >>> > > - (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable.min >>> > > - (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable >>> > >>> > > - Bug fix for missing backstage and blocking of saveChanges(). >>> > > - The missing backstage happens for TW files that start >>> with the >>> > > default GettingStarted tiddler or any other shadowed >>> tiddlers, >>> > > because TWtable does not touch any shadowed tiddlers. It >>> doesn't >>> > > even try to find it, which resulted in a null value for a >>> > > shadowed tiddler and then an exception thrown when TWtable >>> is >>> > > retrieving its title (to find its containing DOM element). >>> If this happened >>> > > when loading the DefaultTiddler then the backstage, which >>> comes >>> > > up after that, would have got no chance to load up. >>> > > - I did not notice this because it did not happen to my own >>> > > minimal test file, which does not start with any of the >>> shadowed tiddlers. >>> > > *But this should have happened since transclusion >>> > > synchronization was implemented. Why it did not? Or it >>> did?* >>> > > - Some more bug fixes for sorting with SortableGridPlugin and >>> > > TableSortingPlugin. >>> > > - These bugs were partly introduced in codes to fix >>> rows/columns >>> > > and the code splitting. *Hope there are not much left*... >>> > >>> > > - Changed back to normal font size for table caption. >>> > >>> > > TWted v1.4.3 >>> > >>> > > - (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWted.min >>> > > - (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWted >>> > > - Set default text-alignment of a table cell to inherit. >>> > > - Removed some dead codes. >>> > >>> > > TWtcalc v0.7.3 >>> > >>> > > - (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtcalc.min >>> > > - (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtcalc >>> > > - Defined ROWS() and COLS()/COLUMNS() functions, which counts >>> the >>> > > number of rows/columns within a range of cells. >>> > > - Bugs fixed for COLUMN()/COL() and COLUMNA()/COLA() >>> functions. >>> > > - These bugs were introduced in codes supporting absolute >>> > > references. >>> > > - Bug fixed with ROUND() function. >>> > > - It was returning NaN when the argument results in 0. >>> > >>> > > Have Fun! >>> > > Vincent >>> > >>> > > On Friday, November 2, 2012 2:02:38 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: >>> > >>> > >> Hi Vincent, >>> > >>> > >> I had not much time to test the new versions, but I am using >>> version >>> > >> 1.3.10 daily with much pleasure. Editing tables is so easy now; it >>> > >> saves me a lot of time. >>> > >>> > >> First test with the split versions was not a success (Win7 x64, >>> FF16): >>> > >> I used the Minimal Test Case made for TableEdit v 1.3.9 (TW v2.6.5 >>> > >> with config.options.chkAutoSave = true; in a systemConfig tagged >>> > >> tiddler), added TWTable v1.4.2-1 and TWted v1.4.2, tagged them >>> > >> systemConfig and deleted TableEdit v1.3.9. >>> > >> At that moment I realized autosave was not working (I cannot recall >>> > >> exactly when it stopped), but manual saving was not possible >>> either. >>> > >> With help of the bookmarklet "Save current storeArea contents to >>> > >> clipboard" from TiddlyTools I could restore the TW but now the >>> > >> backstage button had disappeared. >>> > >> Anyway, I could edit my sample table. >>> > >> May be its a coincidence, but both problems (autosave/backstage >>> > >> button) appeared in earlier versions of TableEdit (before the >>> split). >>> > >>> > >> So I started from scratch and checked if autosave worked after >>> every >>> > >> change. >>> > >> * empty TW v2.6.6 >>> > >> * Added systemConfig tagged tiddler with config.options.chkAutoSave >>> = >>> > >> true; >>> > >> * Added TWtable tagged with systemConfig >>> > >> Up till then everything was OK, but after reloading the TW the >>> > >> backstage button had disappeared (the same in Chrome 17 portable) >>> > >> * Added a tiddler with a table. >>> > >> Table could be edited. >>> > >> See MTC [1] >>> > >>> > >> I did not do any further tests. >>> > >>> > >> For your information, the following plugins work together with >>> > >> TableEdit v1.3.10: >>> > >> DropDownMenuPlugin 2.1 >>> > >> GotoPlugin 1.9.2 >>> > >> ImageSizePlugin 1.2.3 >>> > >> ImportTiddlersPlugin 4.6.2 >>> > >> InlineJavascriptPlugin 1.9.6 >>> > >> ListFiltrPlugin 0.9.1 Beta >>> > >> NestedSlidersPlugin 2.4.9 >>> > >> QuickEditPlugin 2.4.4 >>> > >> QuickNotePlugin 2.1.0 >>> > >> QuickOpenTagPlugin 3.0.1a >>> > >> RenameTagsPlugin 3.0 ($Rev: 5501 $) >>> > >> SaveAndReloadMacro 1.0 >>> > >> SearchOptionsPlugin 3.0.10 >>> > >> SimpleMessagePlugin 0.1 >>> > >> TabEditPlugin 0.32 >>> > >> TableOfContentsPlugin 2.4.3 >>> > >> TagSearchPlugin 1.2.0 (2010-10-10) >>> > >> TagsplorerMacro 1.3.3 >>> > >> TiddlerTweakerPlugin 2.4.5 >>> > >> TiddlersBarPluginMP 1.2.5 >>> > >> TiddlyFileImportr 0.2.7 >>> > >> ToggleTagPlugin 3.1.0a >>> > >> YourSearchPlugin 2.1.6 (2012-04-19) >>> > >>> > >> Note: there are 2 search plugins installed. I can switch between >>> them, >>> > >> but mainly use YourSearchPlugin. Both worked together with >>> TableEdit. >>> > >>> > >> Cheers, >>> > >>> > >> Ton >>> > >>> > >> [1] >>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable142-1_TWted142.html >>> > >>> > >> On Nov 1, 6:40 pm, Yakov <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >> > Vincent, >>> > >>> > >> > > Thanks a lot for the feedback. Currently I do not have time to >>> work >>> > >> on >>> > >> > > these plugins so you will need to wait a while for the next >>> upgrade. >>> > >> Here >>> > >> > > are a few quick replies I can make at this moment. >>> > >>> > >> > That's ok, for current use TableEditor 1.3.12 seems to be good >>> enough. >>> > >>> > >> > > Both Opera 12.02 and FireFox 16.02 work in my Win7 x64 (running >>> in >>> > >> > > VirtualBox 4.1.22 r80657 over Ubuntu 12.04) with TWtable+TWted, >>> so I >>> > >> am >>> > >> > > guessing there might be a plugin conflict in your system. Could >>> you >>> > >> try to >>> > >> > > verify this? >>> > >>> > >> > No, it's definitely not a plugin conflict as for testing I use >>> separate >>> > >> > "repositories", where only TableEditor (couple of versions) and >>> others >>> > >> > (TWted, TWted.min etc) are stored, and only one set is active >>> (i.e. >>> > >> when I >>> > >> > test TableEditor, TWted and others have systemConfigDisable, when >>> I >>> > >> test >>> > >> > TWted + TWtable, others get the tag). >>> > >>> > >> > And I also noticed that TWtcalc.min is not hiding all its codes, >>> which >>> > >> is >>> > >>> > >> > > due to the use of percentage symbol (%) in the recently >>> modified >>> > >> COUNT() >>> > >> > > function. Maybe will switch to another symbol... >>> > >>> > >> > Well, you can try @@display:none .... @@ wrapper instead of /% >>> .... %/, >>> > >> I >>> > >> > think this will work. >>> > >>> > >> > > I see. That was my mistake! Guess I should change it to >>> > >> TWtable.min... or >>> > >> > > just remove it and show a warning message if TWtable (or >>> TWtable.min) >>> > >> is >>> > >> > > not installed (because people can choose to install either >>> one)... >>> > >>> > >> > This depends on the plugin mechnism. The Requires slice is used >>> by >>> > >> users to >>> > >> > see what is required, but also by TW plugin engine which makes >>> sure >>> > >> that >>> > >> > the required plugins are launched *before* the requiring one (I'm >>> not >>> > >> sure >>> > >> > what is done if the required plugin is not found, but this can be >>> > >> > investigated by learning the loadPlugins function [1]). If the >>> two >>> > >> plugins >>> > >> > can be launched in an arbitrary order and work anyway, than I'd >>> suggest >>> > >> to >>> > >> > replace "Requires" by some synonym, so that it would serve for >>> users, >>> > >> but >>> > >> > doesn't do anything with the plugin launch order. >>> > >>> > >> > > However, I have stopped TableEditor so further development will >>> go to >>> > >> > > TWtable+TWted combo. We shall fix the first issue before other >>> > >> things. >>> > >>> > >> > Sure, very true. >>> > >>> > >> > I didn't know about sliders so tables in there are not properly >>> > >> prepared. >>> > >>> > >> > > This will be added in the near future. >>> > >>> > >> > Ok (it's just previously they worked well, if I remember >>> correctly). >>> > >>> > >> > Looking forward. >>> > >>> > >> > [1] >>> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/blob/master/js/main.js#L138 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > the controls button hovers over the edit button.PNG >>> > 99KViewDownload >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/7RV2QKObMxgJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
