Glad I passed by and saw this! Great you're asking Chris! 1) I suggest a commenting feature where *non-registered* visitors can comment on tiddlers/spaces. Why? And isn't this more of a plugin issue? Well, it may be a plugin issue, but it is the single most powerful thing I can think of to attract people to TS-sites. The current "social features" in TS assume you're designing your spaces for fellow tiddlyspacemen, but at least my spaces are targeted at, well, regular folks. Adding a TW/TS built commenting feature would allow the spontaneous visitor to interact in a whole new way and it would make TS a lot more powerful.
Ok, that said, here are some perhaps more conventional opinions: 2) I wish there was a general focus on "mixing, merging, copying, slicing and dicing" between spaces: a) Currently we can include a space into the current one. I wish we could "push" spaces b) ...and that we could include individual tiddlers. Especially with your tiddler centered focus (which I also find exciting!) I think it would be great if we could simply include a single tiddler, or at least its contents. Maybe something like <<tiddler tiddlername@space>> ? It is possible, today, to use iframes and the ".txt" and ".html" formats but... ugly. c) and finally also *pushing *individual tiddlers. Once again, maybe it's "a plugin thing" but imagine visiting a space and seeing some interesting tiddler only to "push" it into some space of yours via some command right there. Maybe a default toolbar command for this could be possible as long as all spaces involved are on TS. I'm uncertain if such a pushed tiddler means it actually refers back to the original tiddler or if it is a local copy. With my naive non-programming eyes, all of the above seems to be about interconnecting subsets of spaces and I'm hoping for some general solution. Some of what you guys are discussing in this thread, such as integrated searches and publishing individual tiddlers sounds related. With the tiddler centered perspective you advocate, Chris, I think these ideas are already up on the table, no? 3) I tried, and noted others trying, to use mGSD on TS but it doesn't work. I wish it did. 4) Regarding your observation that few/none seem to have opinions on the integration of TW5 in TS - well, most of us hardly know what TW5 is yet. So FWIW: I'm assuming TW5 will be great and gradually take over from classic TW, so of course I'd appreciate if TS integrates this somehow :-) Thank you Chris! <:-) On Monday, October 22, 2012 3:43:39 PM UTC+2, Chris Dent wrote: > > > In the past couple of days TiddlySpace (on http://tiddlyspace.com/) > reached its 6000th user so now seems like an opportune time to request > some feedback from the various communities that use it and those that > have thought about it but don't yet. > > I'm writing different versions of this message to different groups. > This, the first, is to the tiddlywiki group, I'll also write to the > TiddlyWeb and TiddlySpace groups[1] if time allows. > > I'm writing here first because of those 6000 users, most of them are > using TiddlySpace as a place to host their content in TiddlyWikis. > > For those who don't know TiddlySpace combines TiddlyWeb[2] and > TiddlyWiki to provide a flexible, multi-user and multi-domain hosting > service for tiddlers with system-wide search, public and private > storage, atom feeds, binary tiddlers and a slew of tools to make it > easy to create, curate and share your content. > > Over the past year most of the development on TiddlySpace has been > focused in a few main areas: > > * Stabilizing and optimizing the service for speed and concurrency. > * Enabling what are being called apps: Web applications on > TiddlySpace, using tiddlers, outside of TiddlyWiki. > * Enabling "real-time" information flows with tiddler information > flowing over websockets. > > As is the case with most open source projects these priorities come > about as a result of who is doing the work and who is being the > squeaky wheel. > > This message is a request for people to squeak and speak up about > what they want or need from TiddlySpace. Doing so will help to form > priorities and ensure that TiddlySpace serves all the people who use > it or want to use it. Any comments or propositions are encouraged > and desired. > > If you don't have something narrative to contribute, then commenting > on any of the following (+1 or -1) propositions would also be useful, > along with any editorial remarks (such as how to accomplish the > proposition): > > * Make the default TiddlyWiki presented by TiddlySpace be more like > empty.html with the option to easily add functionality. Or... > > * Make the default TiddlyWiki be flexible and powerful with > TiddlySpace functionality with the option to easily be more like > empty.html. > > * Provide more blessed themes and verticals and make them easier to > find. > > * Accelerate progress on including TiddlyWiki5 in TiddlySpace. > > * Intergrate TiddlySpace-wide search into TiddlyWiki. > > * Enable a type of lazy loading by default in online TiddlyWikis while > ensuring that downloaded Tiddlywikis still operate effectively. > > * Allow login and registration with github/facebook/google. > > * Improve the documentation (if you +1 this one you are obliged to > editorialize on how). > > * Expose greater admin functionality for manipulating bags and recipes. > > * Make it easier to use tiddlers in apps outside of TiddlySpace. > > * Change the frontpage of tiddlyspace.com so it is more inviting. > > This is just a short list to get things started. I hope that people > will add their own. After there has been some discussion I'll > summarize the results and make a roadmap. > > Thank you for your participation and help. > > [1] http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyspace > > [2] http://tiddlyweb.com/ > > -- > Chris Dent http://burningchrome.com/ > [...] > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/IaOj5I2xRDMJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
