On May 17, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Mat wrote: > So, operation where optional multiple tag fields would simplify. For sake of > explanation we have a TW on Tolkien stuff. Tiddler "Frodo" can have tags like > the following: "ring bearer", "hobbit", "protagonist", "Elijah Woods", "The > Fellowship of the Ring", "The Two Towers", "@Jeremy", and N more tags - i.e > any association the author (or a group of people!) considers relevant. > > Thus, tags are plenty, sprawly and arbitrary - though all quite relevant and > realistic. > > .... > > Using many(!) tags is problematic in current TW and problems increase with > the number of tags. But if TW is to "fit around your brain" then just like > some subjects in your brain has many associations, so do some tiddlers > require many tags. It is a limitation to feel that "I'd better not". One > specific problem is (was?) slowness as a consequence of many tags, especially > for various searches that have to scan all tiddlers and all tags. Categories > of tags could maybe smoothen this.
I may be off-base here---my immediate reaction when I started reading was to say what I'm going to say, but I kept thinking, "We'll maybe he'll eventually get to something that that would not be relevant to"---but tags are not magic. Tags don't organize things. Human beings organize things. And they have to organize tags, too. I'm suspecting---and I don't mean to give offense here, just guessing at what's going on---that you're not putting much thought into your tagging---into developing a tagging *system.* To precisely that end I have found taggly tagging to be *extremely* helpful. As you may know, in taggly tagging, since all tags are tiddlers anyway, tags can be tagged, too. That allows you to put your tags into a hierarchical structure. Which I suspect would in time take care of the problem you're experiencing, which, for all the words you put into describing it, I take to be simply the problem of "many tags." I have found the combination of tw and tt *extremely* helpful in organizing my thinking about what I can assure you are extremely complicated subjects. The really cool thing is that you do not have to have your structure set up in advance. It can evolve as your thinking evolves. So you just start with whatever categories seem most appropriate initially. As your understanding of the subject develops, the tags you started with are likely to come to seem inadequate. Of course you will need additional tags, but some early ones may need to be revised. And tags can be edited! Maybe some will need to be renamed. Or maybe several can be grouped together under a common tag. As you continue the tagging structure will get clearer and your use of tags more discriminating. But it can continue evolving indefinitely. I use the tw treeview blackicity tw developed by Morris Gray. I think I added tt to it. With it I have four ways to locate a tiddler---by tags, in the tree structure---which is itself a graphical representation of the tagging structure---in the time line and/or alphabetical list in the right hand column, or by searching. And as in a standard tw, an open tag tiddler will display a list of all the tiddlers tagged with the tag. Lots of ways to find tiddlers. Lots of ways represent the structure of your tags. Lots of support for thinking about complex topics. Again, I may have misunderstood your problem completely. I hope not and I hope this helps. [Maybe *it* will just confuse you more.] Regards, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Weir Decatur, GA [email protected] "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence." - Charles Bukowski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
