Jeremy,

This is so Frustrating. My Last elegantly composed response seemed safe 
because by disabling various plugins I had found a potential subset of 
plugins that may be the cause of an immediate abend, I could save my 
tiddlywiki. Unfortunately before posting I though I would save my notes to 
you and once again abend.

I will re-post from one I will write in Notepad first - shortly

Tony

On Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:53:20 UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> H Tony
>
> Excellent news that you can now repeat the problem reliably. When you say 
> that the crash isn't occurring with the minimum test case, do you mean that 
> you don't get the crash if you disable all the plugins in your document?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:49 AM, TonyM <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>> I have a Serious problem exposed with TiddlyWiki 2.8.0 in a special case ?
>>
>> I think it important to report something here but I would understand that 
>> it may not be fixable at this stage. As posted by myself on a number of 
>> occasions I have been getting FireFox Abends - Closes Firefox when 
>> selecting Save Changes (Latest FireFox/TiddlyFox and earlier versions) - 
>> the problem is before 2.8.0 this* may or may not happen on any save* and 
>> it seems the longer the period without a save the more likely it will 
>> happen (When more is to be lost). This has been a wicked problem for me and 
>> I have tried to resolve it with all combinations of FF browser and plugin 
>> elimination.
>>
>> Since installing 2.8.0 this problem is now repeatable because without 
>> TiddlyFox enabled it happens on every save.
>>
>> Disable TiddlyFox Save Changes, Download over Dropbox copy from which it 
>> was loaded abends FF, Reopen FF File not found - Firefox can't find the 
>> file at /b:/TiddlyWiki/MasterDBV4.htm - File was deleted.
>>
>> Disable TiddlyFox Save Changes, Download to new location from which it 
>> was loaded abends FF, Reopen FF file was Not deleted.
>>
>> This means should the local file save fail care of TiddlyFox, the fall 
>> back (new 2.8.0 code) is now a guaranteed abend of FireFox) for me.
>>
>> This is not occurring with the minimum test case !
>>
>> I have disabled all Plugins containing netscape.security, From 
>> netscape.security.PrivilegeManager.enablePrivilege('UniversalXPConnect');
>>  including QuickEdit one of my favorite plugins but sadley the fault is 
>> still occurring.
>>
>>
>> *Request
>> Given you are currently knee deep in the save code of tiddlyWiki could 
>> you please advise what plugin code could be interfering with this process 
>> and causing abends? I will then search for this code and disable plugins to 
>> see if I can eliminate it.*
>>
>> I will undertake another plugin disable and reenable elimination process 
>> because at least now the problem is predicable (assuming its that same).
>>
>> FF Crash report below
>>
>> Regards Tony
>>
>> AdapterDeviceID: 0x0166
>> AdapterVendorID: 0x8086
>> Add-ons: 
>> tabletools2%40mingyi.org:1.17,%7B972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd%7D:21.0,jid0-lqtsBMO4PkjAOFcCt6zDcWsAXCU%40jetpack:0.2.4
>> AvailablePageFile: 2765107200
>> AvailablePhysicalMemory: 455303168
>> AvailableVirtualMemory: 520675328
>> BuildID: 20130511120803
>> CrashTime: 1370306476
>> EMCheckCompatibility: true
>> Email: [email protected] <javascript:>
>> FramePoisonBase: 00000000f0de0000
>> FramePoisonSize: 65536
>> InstallTime: 1370305003
>> Notes: AdapterVendorID: 0x8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0x0166, AdapterSubsysID: 
>> 00031179, AdapterDriverVersion: 8.15.10.2712
>> D2D? D2D+ DWrite? DWrite+ D3D10 Layers? D3D10 Layers+ 
>> xpcom_runtime_abort(###!!! ABORT: OOM: file 
>> e:\builds\moz2_slave\rel-m-rel-w32_bld-000000000000\build\xpcom\string\src\nsTSubstring.cpp,
>>  
>> line 291)
>> ProductID: {ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}
>> ProductName: Firefox
>> ReleaseChannel: release
>> SecondsSinceLastCrash: 406
>> StartupTime: 1370306235
>> SystemMemoryUsePercentage: 86
>> Theme: classic/1.0
>> Throttleable: 1
>> TotalVirtualMemory: 2147352576
>> URL: file:///b:/TiddlyWiki/MasterDBV4.html
>> Vendor: Mozilla
>> Version: 21.0
>> Winsock_LSP: MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IP] : 2 : 1 : 
>> %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IP] : 2 : 2 :  
>>  MSAFD Tcpip [RAW/IP] : 2 : 3 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IPv6] : 2 : 1 :  
>>  MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IPv6] : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD Tcpip [RAW/IPv6] : 2 : 3 :  
>>  RSVP TCPv6 Service Provider : 2 : 1 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  RSVP TCP Service Provider : 2 : 1 :  
>>  RSVP UDPv6 Service Provider : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  RSVP UDP Service Provider : 2 : 2 :  
>>  VMCI sockets DGRAM : 0 : 2 : %windir%\system32\vsocklib.dll 
>>  VMCI sockets STREAM : 0 : 1 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] SEQPACKET 17 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] DATAGRAM 17 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] SEQPACKET 13 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] DATAGRAM 13 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] SEQPACKET 10 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] DATAGRAM 10 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] SEQPACKET 7 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] DATAGRAM 7 : 2 
>> : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] SEQPACKET 4 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] DATAGRAM 4 : 2 
>> : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] SEQPACKET 0 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] DATAGRAM 0 : 2 
>> : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] SEQPACKET 2 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] DATAGRAM 2 : 2 
>> : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] SEQPACKET 21 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] DATAGRAM 21 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{04A3E4C7-A637-4D7D-B241-E205E81378DF}] SEQPACKET 25 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{04A3E4C7-A637-4D7D-B241-E205E81378DF}] DATAGRAM 25 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{4CDE9167-C516-4870-8357-24259A3BCBC6}] SEQPACKET 24 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{4CDE9167-C516-4870-8357-24259A3BCBC6}] DATAGRAM 24 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2C37B797-F6D7-4367-AFC0-6C59DFDA0B3C}] SEQPACKET 23 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2C37B797-F6D7-4367-AFC0-6C59DFDA0B3C}] DATAGRAM 23 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] SEQPACKET 22 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] DATAGRAM 22 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] SEQPACKET 20 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] DATAGRAM 20 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{6FDB72DD-9837-4003-95AE-A61A7A6EB53D}] SEQPACKET 19 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{6FDB72DD-9837-4003-95AE-A61A7A6EB53D}] DATAGRAM 19 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{77926489-2F5D-48D2-A983-1A7E53E22D0A}] SEQPACKET 15 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{77926489-2F5D-48D2-A983-1A7E53E22D0A}] DATAGRAM 15 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{D3E94A1D-0F10-4F63-B5D0-12E11375CAB1}] SEQPACKET 12 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{D3E94A1D-0F10-4F63-B5D0-12E11375CAB1}] DATAGRAM 12 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{ABC3B15A-0A4D-4FEB-A638-76880EABDDFB}] SEQPACKET 9 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{ABC3B15A-0A4D-4FEB-A638-76880EABDDFB}] DATAGRAM 9 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2B68A915-447F-46E1-8EFD-7289D91235B6}] SEQPACKET 6 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2B68A915-447F-46E1-8EFD-7289D91235B6}] DATAGRAM 6 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] SEQPACKET 18 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] DATAGRAM 18 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{3601EF92-06D6-46CD-8C4D-D80EFC09289B}] SEQPACKET 16 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{3601EF92-06D6-46CD-8C4D-D80EFC09289B}] DATAGRAM 16 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] SEQPACKET 14 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] DATAGRAM 14 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] SEQPACKET 11 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] DATAGRAM 11 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] SEQPACKET 8 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] DATAGRAM 8 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] SEQPACKET 5 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] DATAGRAM 5 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] SEQPACKET 1 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] DATAGRAM 1 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{25F9ACEB-00A4-400F-963F-74695E5994F8}] SEQPACKET 3 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{25F9ACEB-00A4-400F-963F-74695E5994F8}] DATAGRAM 3 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
>>
>> This report also contains technical information about the state of the 
>> application when it crashed.
>>
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