Ok,

So here is the outcome. Through a Comprehensive disabling of all plugins I 
could not identify any that were responsible. In Fact I can reproduce the 
fault *without any plugins active* at all. My TiddlyWiki 2.8.0 running on 
FireFox FF 21.0 and using TiddlyFox alpha16.

I am usually fine if I am running TiddlyFox however see below. When I am 
not running tiddlyfox and the save routine is used I all-most always 
immediately get a FF abend since updating tiddlywiki

It seems to be clear that when TiddlyFox Does its job and the new save 
routines are not used, save proceeds without fault - however after a period 
of time eventually tiddlyFox seems to fail intermittently and an presumable 
passes the save effort to another routine an abend occurs.

My TiddlyWiki is 13,728 KB in size, could there be a fault relating to this 
size, which is otherwise fine, or a timeout in TiddlyFox or tiddlywiki or 
FF when saving ?

I am starting to migrate my personal database to an alternative.

Yours Sincerely TonyM


On Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:53:20 UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> H Tony
>
> Excellent news that you can now repeat the problem reliably. When you say 
> that the crash isn't occurring with the minimum test case, do you mean that 
> you don't get the crash if you disable all the plugins in your document?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:49 AM, TonyM <anthony...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>> I have a Serious problem exposed with TiddlyWiki 2.8.0 in a special case ?
>>
>> I think it important to report something here but I would understand that 
>> it may not be fixable at this stage. As posted by myself on a number of 
>> occasions I have been getting FireFox Abends - Closes Firefox when 
>> selecting Save Changes (Latest FireFox/TiddlyFox and earlier versions) - 
>> the problem is before 2.8.0 this* may or may not happen on any save* and 
>> it seems the longer the period without a save the more likely it will 
>> happen (When more is to be lost). This has been a wicked problem for me and 
>> I have tried to resolve it with all combinations of FF browser and plugin 
>> elimination.
>>
>> Since installing 2.8.0 this problem is now repeatable because without 
>> TiddlyFox enabled it happens on every save.
>>
>> Disable TiddlyFox Save Changes, Download over Dropbox copy from which it 
>> was loaded abends FF, Reopen FF File not found - Firefox can't find the 
>> file at /b:/TiddlyWiki/MasterDBV4.htm - File was deleted.
>>
>> Disable TiddlyFox Save Changes, Download to new location from which it 
>> was loaded abends FF, Reopen FF file was Not deleted.
>>
>> This means should the local file save fail care of TiddlyFox, the fall 
>> back (new 2.8.0 code) is now a guaranteed abend of FireFox) for me.
>>
>> This is not occurring with the minimum test case !
>>
>> I have disabled all Plugins containing netscape.security, From 
>> netscape.security.PrivilegeManager.enablePrivilege('UniversalXPConnect');
>>  including QuickEdit one of my favorite plugins but sadley the fault is 
>> still occurring.
>>
>>
>> *Request
>> Given you are currently knee deep in the save code of tiddlyWiki could 
>> you please advise what plugin code could be interfering with this process 
>> and causing abends? I will then search for this code and disable plugins to 
>> see if I can eliminate it.*
>>
>> I will undertake another plugin disable and reenable elimination process 
>> because at least now the problem is predicable (assuming its that same).
>>
>> FF Crash report below
>>
>> Regards Tony
>>
>> AdapterDeviceID: 0x0166
>> AdapterVendorID: 0x8086
>> Add-ons: 
>> tabletools2%40mingyi.org:1.17,%7B972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd%7D:21.0,jid0-lqtsBMO4PkjAOFcCt6zDcWsAXCU%40jetpack:0.2.4
>> AvailablePageFile: 2765107200
>> AvailablePhysicalMemory: 455303168
>> AvailableVirtualMemory: 520675328
>> BuildID: 20130511120803
>> CrashTime: 1370306476
>> EMCheckCompatibility: true
>> Email: anthony...@gmail.com <javascript:>
>> FramePoisonBase: 00000000f0de0000
>> FramePoisonSize: 65536
>> InstallTime: 1370305003
>> Notes: AdapterVendorID: 0x8086, AdapterDeviceID: 0x0166, AdapterSubsysID: 
>> 00031179, AdapterDriverVersion: 8.15.10.2712
>> D2D? D2D+ DWrite? DWrite+ D3D10 Layers? D3D10 Layers+ 
>> xpcom_runtime_abort(###!!! ABORT: OOM: file 
>> e:\builds\moz2_slave\rel-m-rel-w32_bld-000000000000\build\xpcom\string\src\nsTSubstring.cpp,
>>  
>> line 291)
>> ProductID: {ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}
>> ProductName: Firefox
>> ReleaseChannel: release
>> SecondsSinceLastCrash: 406
>> StartupTime: 1370306235
>> SystemMemoryUsePercentage: 86
>> Theme: classic/1.0
>> Throttleable: 1
>> TotalVirtualMemory: 2147352576
>> URL: file:///b:/TiddlyWiki/MasterDBV4.html
>> Vendor: Mozilla
>> Version: 21.0
>> Winsock_LSP: MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IP] : 2 : 1 : 
>> %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IP] : 2 : 2 :  
>>  MSAFD Tcpip [RAW/IP] : 2 : 3 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD Tcpip [TCP/IPv6] : 2 : 1 :  
>>  MSAFD Tcpip [UDP/IPv6] : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD Tcpip [RAW/IPv6] : 2 : 3 :  
>>  RSVP TCPv6 Service Provider : 2 : 1 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  RSVP TCP Service Provider : 2 : 1 :  
>>  RSVP UDPv6 Service Provider : 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  RSVP UDP Service Provider : 2 : 2 :  
>>  VMCI sockets DGRAM : 0 : 2 : %windir%\system32\vsocklib.dll 
>>  VMCI sockets STREAM : 0 : 1 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] SEQPACKET 17 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] DATAGRAM 17 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] SEQPACKET 13 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] DATAGRAM 13 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] SEQPACKET 10 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] DATAGRAM 10 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] SEQPACKET 7 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] DATAGRAM 7 : 2 
>> : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] SEQPACKET 4 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] DATAGRAM 4 : 2 
>> : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] SEQPACKET 0 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] DATAGRAM 0 : 2 
>> : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] SEQPACKET 2 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] DATAGRAM 2 : 2 
>> : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] SEQPACKET 21 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] DATAGRAM 21 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{04A3E4C7-A637-4D7D-B241-E205E81378DF}] SEQPACKET 25 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{04A3E4C7-A637-4D7D-B241-E205E81378DF}] DATAGRAM 25 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{4CDE9167-C516-4870-8357-24259A3BCBC6}] SEQPACKET 24 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{4CDE9167-C516-4870-8357-24259A3BCBC6}] DATAGRAM 24 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2C37B797-F6D7-4367-AFC0-6C59DFDA0B3C}] SEQPACKET 23 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2C37B797-F6D7-4367-AFC0-6C59DFDA0B3C}] DATAGRAM 23 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] SEQPACKET 22 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{A869DFB1-43D4-4C35-A664-F483F4267D3E}] DATAGRAM 22 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] SEQPACKET 20 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{1C355F22-3860-42FF-9256-2B8DD58579CE}] DATAGRAM 20 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{6FDB72DD-9837-4003-95AE-A61A7A6EB53D}] SEQPACKET 19 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{6FDB72DD-9837-4003-95AE-A61A7A6EB53D}] DATAGRAM 19 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{77926489-2F5D-48D2-A983-1A7E53E22D0A}] SEQPACKET 15 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{77926489-2F5D-48D2-A983-1A7E53E22D0A}] DATAGRAM 15 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{D3E94A1D-0F10-4F63-B5D0-12E11375CAB1}] SEQPACKET 12 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{D3E94A1D-0F10-4F63-B5D0-12E11375CAB1}] DATAGRAM 12 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{ABC3B15A-0A4D-4FEB-A638-76880EABDDFB}] SEQPACKET 9 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{ABC3B15A-0A4D-4FEB-A638-76880EABDDFB}] DATAGRAM 9 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2B68A915-447F-46E1-8EFD-7289D91235B6}] SEQPACKET 6 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{2B68A915-447F-46E1-8EFD-7289D91235B6}] DATAGRAM 6 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] SEQPACKET 18 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{AF59E493-427B-4C72-A34E-DFF9B7B2142B}] DATAGRAM 18 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{3601EF92-06D6-46CD-8C4D-D80EFC09289B}] SEQPACKET 16 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{3601EF92-06D6-46CD-8C4D-D80EFC09289B}] DATAGRAM 16 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] SEQPACKET 14 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{BCF77AB2-7777-4387-8411-BD2AB4A28958}] DATAGRAM 14 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] SEQPACKET 11 
>> : 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{883896CC-0E69-46FA-BACE-77713F7A0B39}] DATAGRAM 11 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] SEQPACKET 8 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{EF050343-842F-441C-9776-16F2FFAB92E9}] DATAGRAM 8 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] SEQPACKET 5 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{0D99DAF1-3FD1-49DD-9211-133C219B74E2}] DATAGRAM 5 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] SEQPACKET 1 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{F76ADD42-AC13-4518-AC62-3706E2950455}] DATAGRAM 1 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll 
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{25F9ACEB-00A4-400F-963F-74695E5994F8}] SEQPACKET 3 : 
>> 2 : 5 :  
>>  MSAFD NetBIOS 
>> [\Device\NetBT_Tcpip6_{25F9ACEB-00A4-400F-963F-74695E5994F8}] DATAGRAM 3 : 
>> 2 : 2 : %SystemRoot%\system32\mswsock.dll
>>
>> This report also contains technical information about the state of the 
>> application when it crashed.
>>
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