Hi Mario,

sounds interesting (at least when comparing those terms of use). I created 
an account, just in case.

But what kind of plugin you intend to make? And what are the main benefits 
of storing pictures somewhere else than in oneself's site?

Best regards,
Yakov.

понедельник, 21 октября 2013 г., 21:55:59 UTC+4 пользователь PMario написал:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I wanted to point you to the picture hosting service http://Trovebox.com- I 
> intended to use it with my first TW5 plugin, but now they are ending 
> there "promotion period". Since I think this serivce may be usefull with 
> TWc and TW5, I thought I'll share it. 
>
> Up to the 25th of October (4 days left) they offer a "limited free" and an 
> "unlimited pro" account. 
>
> * free [14] ... upload 100 pictures per month. No access limit.
> * pro [14] ... unlimited upload / import ... (USD: 29.90 _per year_)
>
> For new users after 25.10.2013, there will be no "unlimieded pro" and "no 
> free" option anymore. I don't have any additional info, since they didn't 
> talk about the future plans in there mail. ...
>
> Important: If you decide to create an account, carefully read, where you 
> want to store your pics. IMO you should use the trovebox store. Otherwise 
> trovebox is just a frontend, and you may have to pay twice (For the storage 
> and the frontend).
>
> my sandbox: https://pmariojo.trovebox.com/photos/list
>
> Some more info, why I think it is usefull and considering a free account 
> doesn't hurt :)
>
> ------------------
>
> Some time ago I did create 2 spaces [10,11] to include picasa picture 
> gallery into a TiddlySpace TiddlyWiki [a](long thread). I did implement a 
> very "basic" functionality, because imo googles or flikrs "Terms of Service 
> (TOS)" [1,2,3,4] don't allow the usecase Mat and I actaully wanted.
>
> The main goal, of such an implementation should be 
>
> * There should be the possibility to upload your full size pictures to a 
> hosting / sharing service.
>
> * The service should be useable on its own.
>
> * The hosting service should give a programmer an interface (API) to load 
> the full size pic or a resized version on demand. 
>
> * The TiddlyWiki should be able to download and save these pics as a 
> tiddler for eg: offline viewing. 
>
> * The service should not deny the above by there Terms Of Service (both 
> user and developer TOS are important)
>
>
> In my last post [13] I stated, that there are services, that do treat ther 
> users in a better way. ... much better!
>
> I did know about the OpenPhoto (now Trovebox) project but it was in its 
> infancy in Feb. 2012 :) Atm it is version 3 and imo quite useable as a 
> picture hosting and sharing service [5]. It is open source. You can find it 
> at github [9].
>
> It can store your photos at there servers or it can connect to eg: 
> Dropbox, Box, Amazon S3, CX and DreamObjects (source: [5]). I personally 
> store my stuff at there servers. So the free space, they provide adds up :) 
>
> Trovebox uses very liberal TOS [8]. In fact all your stuff is yours. If 
> you want to host your own service, just do it. 
>
> IMO for TW users/devs even more important, there is a nice http API [6] 
> that allows [8] you to fetch and resize [7] your pictures on the fly. No 
> restrictions, to store your onw pics somewhere else \o/
>
> So you only need to upload a full size picture to your account and you 
> (your TW) can download a resized version of the pic to store it eg: for 
> offline viewing. 
>
> PRO: 
>  * IMO exactly what we need, to use pics with TiddlySpace,  TWc and TW5
>
> CONS:
>  * Plugin(s), that uses the service has to be created ;)
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
> PS: Wall of flame
>
> FlikrTOS for programmers [1] especially the "You shall not" (i and iv) and 
> the Commercial Use sections.
> FlikrTOS for users [2], which is the (!"§$% long) Yahoo tos, where a user 
> has to grant them all the rights, to user there service
> google developer TOS [3]. Especially the "Prohibitions on Content" 
> section. 
> google user TOS [4] ... where you need to grant rights to user your stuff, 
> even if you removed it. 
> many others are no better ...
>
> PPS: links :)
>
> [a] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/uFypHIuwkuM/994_H4PN5tkJ
>
> [1] http://www.flickr.com/services/api/tos/
> [2] http://info.yahoo.com/legal/ie/yahoo/utos/en-ie/
> [3] https://developers.google.com/terms/
> [4] http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/
> [5] https://trovebox.com
> [6] https://trovebox.com/documentation
> [7] http://theopenphotoproject.org/documentation/faq/PhotoGeneration
> [8] https://trovebox.com/terms
> [9] https://github.com/photo/frontend
>
> [10] http://picasagallery.tiddlyspace.com/
> [11] http://picasagallery-plugins.tiddlyspace.com/ 
>
> [12] about tos restrictions 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/uFypHIuwkuM/e2uNEcZe7k0J
> [13] my last post: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/uFypHIuwkuM/e2uNEcZe7k0J
>
> [14] https://trovebox.com/plans
>
> PPS: I'm not related to any of the above mentioned services. I just wanted 
> to let you know!
>

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