Mario.

Thanks for the reference! -- Hans

On Monday, October 21, 2013 1:55:59 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I wanted to point you to the picture hosting service http://Trovebox.com- I 
> intended to use it with my first TW5 plugin, but now they are ending 
> there "promotion period". Since I think this serivce may be usefull with 
> TWc and TW5, I thought I'll share it. 
>
> Up to the 25th of October (4 days left) they offer a "limited free" and an 
> "unlimited pro" account. 
>
> * free [14] ... upload 100 pictures per month. No access limit.
> * pro [14] ... unlimited upload / import ... (USD: 29.90 _per year_)
>
> For new users after 25.10.2013, there will be no "unlimieded pro" and "no 
> free" option anymore. I don't have any additional info, since they didn't 
> talk about the future plans in there mail. ...
>
> Important: If you decide to create an account, carefully read, where you 
> want to store your pics. IMO you should use the trovebox store. Otherwise 
> trovebox is just a frontend, and you may have to pay twice (For the storage 
> and the frontend).
>
> my sandbox: https://pmariojo.trovebox.com/photos/list
>
> Some more info, why I think it is usefull and considering a free account 
> doesn't hurt :)
>
> ------------------
>
> Some time ago I did create 2 spaces [10,11] to include picasa picture 
> gallery into a TiddlySpace TiddlyWiki [a](long thread). I did implement a 
> very "basic" functionality, because imo googles or flikrs "Terms of Service 
> (TOS)" [1,2,3,4] don't allow the usecase Mat and I actaully wanted.
>
> The main goal, of such an implementation should be 
>
> * There should be the possibility to upload your full size pictures to a 
> hosting / sharing service.
>
> * The service should be useable on its own.
>
> * The hosting service should give a programmer an interface (API) to load 
> the full size pic or a resized version on demand. 
>
> * The TiddlyWiki should be able to download and save these pics as a 
> tiddler for eg: offline viewing. 
>
> * The service should not deny the above by there Terms Of Service (both 
> user and developer TOS are important)
>
>
> In my last post [13] I stated, that there are services, that do treat ther 
> users in a better way. ... much better!
>
> I did know about the OpenPhoto (now Trovebox) project but it was in its 
> infancy in Feb. 2012 :) Atm it is version 3 and imo quite useable as a 
> picture hosting and sharing service [5]. It is open source. You can find it 
> at github [9].
>
> It can store your photos at there servers or it can connect to eg: 
> Dropbox, Box, Amazon S3, CX and DreamObjects (source: [5]). I personally 
> store my stuff at there servers. So the free space, they provide adds up :) 
>
> Trovebox uses very liberal TOS [8]. In fact all your stuff is yours. If 
> you want to host your own service, just do it. 
>
> IMO for TW users/devs even more important, there is a nice http API [6] 
> that allows [8] you to fetch and resize [7] your pictures on the fly. No 
> restrictions, to store your onw pics somewhere else \o/
>
> So you only need to upload a full size picture to your account and you 
> (your TW) can download a resized version of the pic to store it eg: for 
> offline viewing. 
>
> PRO: 
>  * IMO exactly what we need, to use pics with TiddlySpace,  TWc and TW5
>
> CONS:
>  * Plugin(s), that uses the service has to be created ;)
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
> PS: Wall of flame
>
> FlikrTOS for programmers [1] especially the "You shall not" (i and iv) and 
> the Commercial Use sections.
> FlikrTOS for users [2], which is the (!"ยง$% long) Yahoo tos, where a user 
> has to grant them all the rights, to user there service
> google developer TOS [3]. Especially the "Prohibitions on Content" 
> section. 
> google user TOS [4] ... where you need to grant rights to user your stuff, 
> even if you removed it. 
> many others are no better ...
>
> PPS: links :)
>
> [a] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/uFypHIuwkuM/994_H4PN5tkJ
>
> [1] http://www.flickr.com/services/api/tos/
> [2] http://info.yahoo.com/legal/ie/yahoo/utos/en-ie/
> [3] https://developers.google.com/terms/
> [4] http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/
> [5] https://trovebox.com
> [6] https://trovebox.com/documentation
> [7] http://theopenphotoproject.org/documentation/faq/PhotoGeneration
> [8] https://trovebox.com/terms
> [9] https://github.com/photo/frontend
>
> [10] http://picasagallery.tiddlyspace.com/
> [11] http://picasagallery-plugins.tiddlyspace.com/ 
>
> [12] about tos restrictions 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/uFypHIuwkuM/e2uNEcZe7k0J
> [13] my last post: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/uFypHIuwkuM/e2uNEcZe7k0J
>
> [14] https://trovebox.com/plans
>
> PPS: I'm not related to any of the above mentioned services. I just wanted 
> to let you know!
>

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