IMO the current menu solutions contain too many compromises and are too static. This is a bit surprising considering how flexible TW is. Yes, Morris Gray did us a favor with the great TreeView<http://treeview.tiddlyspot.com/>plugin (or the variant <http://twt-blackicity.tiddlyspot.com/index.html> I prefer). It comes close but is too rigid. TagglyTagging<http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#TagglyTagging>also has merit. I've dabbled with NestedSliders <http://www.tiddlytools.com/#NestedSlidersPlugin> and while I think this can be a great starting point, I have been unable to make something good (due to incompetence in coding). In summary... the ultimate menu simply does not exist yet.
:...so, here is an outline for a more TW'esque design: 1) A tree-like structre that automatically sorts itself alphabetically (or other order, as in eg Taggly). 2a) Items (branches, sub-branches or leafs) are added via tagging or possibly by field value. I.e If a branch is called Foo, tagging a tiddler with Foo automatically makes it show up in that branch. 2b) ...but you can also control to have it not show up. (Perhaps, again, via some other tag. "NotInMenu") 3) Like in TreeView, each branch title is a tiddler, meaning you can click the title to open that tiddler but you can also click the title to instead open the branch to see the sub-items, i.e without opening the branch tiddler itself. I really like the 'variant' of TreeView mentioned above with a kind of fixed-width button. Clicking the title on the button opens that tiddler, clicking elsewhere on button opens branch in menu. Here come the bazookas: The content of each such button or 'branch heading' is "dynamic": 4) You can use (and easily set) the branch title to be an optional name instead of the tiddler name, as with [[optional name|InsteadOfOriginalName]]. (For instance, have branch title say Programmer*s* (plural) but still tag individual sub-tiddlers with only Programmer.) The alphabetical position for this branch should probably also sort by optional name, not the original name, meaning that you are freer to rearrange tiddlers. A nice aspect with this is also that this allows longer original tiddler names without necessarily botching the menu. 5) ...or if rearranging is really serious, you can do what TiddlyDocs<http://vanillatiddlydocs.tiddlyspot.com/>allows: You can freely rearrange branches and/or sub-branches (there: "chapters, paragraphs"). There it's even done via drag'n-drop. I'm guessing that sorting is by some field value and that rearrangement adapts these values accordingly. 6) You can add other stuff to the button (or next to it), for instance a "add new" button (to add sub-tiddlers), a checkbox (to tag/untag something), a hover-note, a link (to tiddler or maybe even external file), some indication showing if the branch has sub-tiddlers, some indication the branch title (ie that tiddler) has text content, ... 7) The whole thing does not clog memory, or it is at least controlled when it does so (I'm referring to that MainMenu renders on loading the TW. Note NetedSliders has an option to prevent rendering until the slider is opened.) 8) Does not crash from loops / circular tagging - subbranch can contain parentbranch. 8a) .. and ideally also displays this in some way. (Perhaps: *parent - child - [subchildren] - parent* and then stop, i.e other than the parent name, no info is repeated.) I have yet further ideas but I think the above may be overwhelming enough ;-) I believe a great menu would be of value for the whole TW community. Thoughts? <:-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
