> Can anyone summarise the hangout discussion? > The discussion starts here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0xWd4nhlQoE#t=6299 To summarise, I was trying to explore whether people were after: * The specific interactive effect of clicking on a footnote link and being taken to the bottom of the tiddler to read the text * The writing style of referencing the footnote in the body of the tiddler, but having the footnote text at the bottom of the tiddler * Automatic numbering of footnotes To me there are two fairly straightforward Tiddly-esque way of handling footnotes: * Extending tiddler links so that they can show the target tiddler in a popup * A slider-style syntax (like Daniel's example) The advantage of the former approach is that it allows the same footnote to be referenced from multiple places in the text, while the latter is a lot easier to type. The two approaches could render in (almost) the same way, to give the same user experience. Best wishes Jeremy > The high level goal of footnotes is to make a little bit of additional > info available to the few readers who need it, without interrupting the > flow of other readers. In a web/computer screen context having notes show > up at the bottom of the "page" doesn't make sense, especially where > scrolling might be required. > > Popups are a more familiar solution; I personally don't much like them but > that shouldn't rule them out as the best way to do footnotes in a TW. If i > were doing it for something other than tiddlywiki I might suggest that > clicking the reference marker could a sort of horizontal page split to show > the footnote content -- like iOS folders used to do (demo in JS here: > http://jsfiddle.net/SDp5y/ ) or like the Brackets editor splits a source > file to edit a colour or something (e.g. the screenshot at > http://brackets.io/ ). > > Anyway it's easy to fiddle around with the exact right way to show > footnote content, what's more important is getting the information model > and wiki markup right first. > > Cheers > ;Daniel > > > > On 12 February 2014 08:59, Julio Peña <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I was glad this was touched upon in the Google hangout #34 by Jeremy. >> I completely understood where Jeremy was coming from in regards to >> navigation in TW5. >> >> So, to that effect, if this may not be semantically possible and can do >> tool-tip (*like I believe I heard mentioned?*) then I can do that. >> As long as I can have a quick reference to either a link or source I >> wouldn't mind. >> >> Take a look at: http://www.opentip.org/ >> >> Maybe something to this effect can be implemented? >> >> Just an idea to throw in the hat per se. What do you think? >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Julio >> >> >> On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:03:03 AM UTC-5, PMario wrote: >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:38:19 AM UTC+1, Daniel Baird wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Naively it seems to me that when editing, the footnote content should >>>> be right there where the reference is. This means you can easily edit the >>>> note, and avoid hassles like orphaned notes when you copy/paste stuff, etc. >>>> e.g: >>>> >>>> This is my sentence with [[note1::Sentences are usually more well >>>> constructed than this one.]]. Another sentence follows. >>>> >>>> Even other paragraphs. >>>> >>>> _,~'^'~._referenceList^'~._,~'^ >>>> >>>> >>>> Would give: >>>> >>>> This is my sentence with note1. Another sentence follows. >>>> >>>> Even other paragraphs. >>>> >>>> note1: Sentences are usually more well constructed than this one. >>>> >>>> >>> When I read this suggestion I think about external [ext[]] and image >>> [img[]] links. Thery are missing atm and some discussion is going on. So >>> there is some work to do anyway. >>> >>> eg: [footnote[note1|Sentences are usually more well constructed than >>> this one.]] >>> >>> ... IMO there is a problem with the automatic numbering with this >>> syntax. ... >>> >>> @jeremy >>> what do you think? >>> >>> -mario >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > > -- > Daniel Baird > retro objoke: Chuck Norris had a problem so he decided to use regular > expressions. Now, every problem in the world is solved. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:[email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

