thank you Leo! it seems that this theme introduces too many unknowns for a 
beginner wanting to customize a few standard concepts. i don't see a way to 
disable it, so i think i will save myself some headaches and delete it.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:11:03 PM UTC-3, Leo Staley wrote:
>
> You are using the Simplicity theme. This has templates which over-ride 
> whatever is listed in the shadows. unfortunately it's not listed in the All 
> tiddlers area, because all of the associated tiddlers are tagged 
> excludeLists and excludeSearch. Fortunately, if you check under your tags, 
> you can go see any of the tiddlers tagged excludeLists or excludeSearch.
>
> That's where you'll find the tiddlers which are over-riding the regular 
> shadow tiddlers. This should point you in the right direction. 
>
> Cheers!
> -Leo
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:53:53 PM UTC-7, Joe Shirk wrote:
>>
>> i started my tiddlywiki over a year ago, and stopped using it until 
>> recently. but there is a lot of info there. i can only say i imported a 
>> style but i don't remember how, or whose, or where it is. i think this 
>> raises a lot of unknows when one tries new modifications that don't play 
>> well with an unknown background of plugins. is there a way to list these or 
>> see them from a url?
>>
>> basically i wanted to add a start date and end date field to a resume 
>> that includes a lot of job tiddlers. i added various versions of examples i 
>> found here and on the regular tw sites. in the edit screen, no field 
>> appeared. i thought it was caused by EditFieldPlugin, so i stopped using 
>> it. then i just tried something basic - to change the order of the text 
>> field and the tag field. nothing changed. then i deleted last modified 
>> date. nothing. then i deleted modified by and comments number... then it 
>> hit me, my wiki is not even looking at edit template or view template. i 
>> don't know where to look.
>>
>> my wiki is at http://joeshirk.tiddlyspace.com/
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:14:07 PM UTC-3, Leo Staley wrote:
>>>
>>> One thing I also try is to see if a single specific change I'm making 
>>> will also work in a barebones empty.html tiddlywiki. 
>>>
>>> For EditTemplate, you don't have to refresh the page, but usually for 
>>> ViewTemplate, you do have to refresh the page after saving the change. 
>>>
>>> Are you using a customized PageTemplate or StyleSheet? 
>>>
>>> Could you offer some examples? 
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> -Leo
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:25:34 PM UTC-7, Joe Shirk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Reading this forum encouranged me to solve some of my own problems 
>>>> using fields. I've tried many suggestions posted here but no matter what i 
>>>> add or delete from the view or edit template has no effect. obviously 
>>>> something is overriding them -or maybe the changes don't take effect 
>>>> unless 
>>>> i restart the app but I don't believe that. what'ts going on?
>>>>
>>>

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