On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 3:53:50 AM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote: > > I think with all these shared / collaboration concepts one thing is key: > > separating "the wiki(s)" from "the store(s)" >
right. > For collaboration around TiddlyWiki, the single-file paradigm is > essentially untenable, > The point here is, that our users want it. They refuse to use server backends, because managing them seems to be to complicated. > not just for the simple reason that to currently push 1 byte of "changed > tiddler" > you my need to push +2mb of "changed wiki"... unless you're using a pretty > vulnerable node server. > That's not really a problem. Most servers use gzip before the send a file. So you have about 400kByte over the wire. ... One photo on a decent mobile phone has about 3MByte atm. Since it is jpeg it can't be compressed anymore. ... So imo file size isn't the main problem. But you are right. Sending 400k to change 1 byte is kind of an overkill :) I still think the idea that Jeremy had with a decent export / import mechanism + UI is a good one which would fit for many users. eg: You have a local TW copy, where you made some changes. A friend gives you access to his modified version. You drag & drop import it to your TW -> new -> You get an UI, that tells you 80% of the tiddlers are the same. They are not listed. You get a list of tiddlers, that you modified You get a list of tiddlers, that he modified .... + UI described below. You get a list of conflicting tiddlers, because both modified them. .... Here we need a better UI, that let's us see the differences, and let us resolve them. I'm sure there are quite some users, that would be happy with this mechanism, because it has no dependencies. It's extremely simple. An if you only did eg: 10 small changes in the text. Resolving will be fast too. part 1 may be more to follow -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

