Indeed, Jon Udell has a long history of interest in and reporting on TiddlyWiki, Smallest Federated Wiki and other collaboration tools. It's great to see him getting involved in a product, and I'll be very interested in the results.
Best wishes Jeremy On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Alex Hough <[email protected]> wrote: > I've started to think about annotation. In my TiddlyWiki, I found that I > was using pretty links to annotate text. Annotations could be collected > using filters of tiddlers containing pipe character > > Alex > > > On Friday, 27 March 2015, Peter Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks for the comment, Mario, and I appreciate your concerns. I was a >> fishing a little as I saw Jon Udell is working there now -- for folk of a >> certain age he gives the project a degree of credibility. As per his blog >> comments, I was thinking primarily of use with a class of students. >> >> http://blog.jonudell.net/2015/03/22/annotating-the-web-my-new-job/ >> >> On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 10:17:44 AM UTC, PMario wrote: >>> >>> Hi Peter, >>> >>> The idea is interesting and the organisation behind hypothesis seems to >>> be interesting too. >>> The vision video is great, but imo the implementation has some flaws >>> atm. >>> >>> I have 3 major issues: >>> >>> 1) There is no official API to communicate with the service. .. At least >>> I couldn't find one. ... TiddlyWiki is not a web page, it's an application. >>> So TW needs to be in control of its content. ... >>> >>> 2) To get the annotation working you need to call your own web page >>> using theirs eg: https://via.hypothes.is/h/http://tiddlywiki.com/ >>> So I pay for a nice domain name, just to get it hijacked. For my taste >>> this behaviour is very aggressive. >>> >>> 3) IMO the TiddlyWiki workflow contradicts the annotations value. >>> TiddlyWiki is highly dynamic. For me tiddlers only make sense, if they >>> are refactored (according to feedback) >>> If the tiddler content changes enough, imo the annotation linking >>> mechanism doesn't work anymore. >>> >>> Having a look at there roadmap <https://hypothes.is/roadmap/> it seems >>> they see this problem. See: "Archive annotated pages, recover orphans >>> <https://github.com/hypothesis/vision/issues/76>" ... >>> They want to store the old version of a page ... Which is fine in the >>> first view. ... >>> - But what if the original content isn't licensed that way? >>> - What if the author of the original content doesn't want this >>> behaviour? >>> >>> I really like the idea, to play nice with them but I have some concerns. >>> just my 2 cents. >>> >>> have fun! >>> mario >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:[email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
