Hi Mat, thanks for the welcome and the extensive reply.
I appreciate the efforts of volunteers working on making TiddlyWiki as
great as it is, and particularly the work of Jeremy. I plan to watch the
hangout
videos
<https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVT_2PPd-1p34gGCQ5qpwC8QdykxVAI3u>
at some time soon and catch up with all that has been happening in this
space.
This will probably be solved when we enable TiddlyWikis to interact ("the
> Federation") and fetch/assemble data from other TWs but this is not yet
> implemented.
>
This sounds very positive. Is it going to be something like scary
transclusion
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding> in
MediaWiki? Sorry, I'll probably be referring to and comparing TW to MW
quite a lot as I learn to use TW. Please understand that it's only as a
frame of reference, not as a comparison of the merits of either product.
BTW, note that TiddlySpace is based on non-TW5 architecture. If you're
> starting out with TW, I'd advice you to go with TW5, also for other
> reasons
> <http://twaddle.tiddlyspot.com/#Why%20I%20stopped%20using%20TiddlySpace>.
>
Thanks for explaining the difference between these sites. As you'll no
doubt see in another discussion in this Google Group, I've settled on using
Google Drive to host my online ("dev") instance of TiddlyWiki
<https://googledrive.com/host/0B7OVeQzNSpUGX1dXcDhnOFM4aTA>now. All this
googlish stuff is making my head spin, as I normally try to avoid Google
for privacy reasons, even before the Snowden
<http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/avoid-dropbox-facebook-google-warns-snowden/>
revelations. That's why I have created a whole new Google account just for
my TW interactions.
The thing is, the only *really *"official" site is tiddlywiki.com, and this
is run by Jeremy Ruston. People can contribute to this site (via Github
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5>) in the same way they contribute
to TW itself...
I do have a GitHub account, but I'm not very familiar with it, as I'm not a
software developer, as such. I'm just an end user, and a (former) network
administrator. I have some simplistic programming skills, but much of what
I learned as a child was based on the 16-bit microEclipse
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_General_Eclipse> processor or the 8-bit
6502 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS_Technology_6502> processor, neither
of which are still useful these days. I can copy/paste code snippets in
most modern programming languages, but machine code is my mother-tongue.
On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 5:02:25 AM UTC+12, Mat wrote:
>
> Hi Hegart and welcome!
>
> As you're not the first to note, this is a difficulty. The thing is, the
> only *really *"official" site is tiddlywiki.com, and this is run by
> Jeremy Ruston. People can contribute to this site (via Github
> <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5>) in the same way they
> contribute to TW itself, but in the end it is what it is because of Jeremys
> incredible brute force work on it over the years. With the possible
> exception of a few other individuals, all other info-sites and resources
> are made from well meaning mortals who put up things hoping it might
> benefit others. Unfortunately this means it has a much more ephemeral
> nature to it... If it's not cared for then things decay.
>
>
> In addition to questions/answers in this group, there is also a public
>>> TiddlySpace containing TiddlyWiki Community Documentation
>>> <http://www.tiddlywiki.org>.
>>
>>
> @Eric
> Frankly, this should probably be removed from the blurb.
>
>
> Where is the community documentation for TW5?
>
>
> There is no equivalent for TW5 and the main problem is that we currently
> don't have the infrastructure to let community members collectively build
> up a TW, at least not in any practical way. This will probably be solved
> when we enable TiddlyWikis to interact ("the Federation") and
> fetch/assemble data from other TWs but this is not yet implemented.
>
> The closest thing we come to a community-info site is, I'm sad to say,
> this place i.e this google group.
>
>
> Also, some of the commonly mentioned options for online hosting of TW
>> wikis, such as TiddlySpace and TiddlySpot, don't seem to advertise (or even
>> allow access to) information about which version of TW they are running.
>> This makes it even more confusing, particularly when trying to synchronize
>> the environment of my local (offline) TW implementation with an online TW
>> host.
>>
>
> TiddlySpace is run by BT (Brittish Telecom) and TiddlySpot is run by
> fellows Simon and Daniel Baird. I can't comment on BT, but for TiddlySpot
> it is again single individuals who are just incredibly generous. The thing
> with TiddlySpot is that you upload/overwrite whatever-the-default version
> is with whatever you want, i.e the latest version!
>
> BTW, note that TiddlySpace is based on non-TW5 architecture. If you're
> starting out with TW, I'd advice you to go with TW5, also for other
> reasons
> <http://twaddle.tiddlyspot.com/#Why%20I%20stopped%20using%20TiddlySpace>.
>
>
>
> Finally, while we're discussing TW versions, the Customizer
>> <http://twguides.org/customizer.html> at TWGuides by Andreas Hahn
>> <http://tiddlywiki.com/#TWGuides%20by%20Andreas%20Hahn>, which was
>> linked to from the Community tiddler <http://tiddlywiki.com/#Community>
>> on the main TW5 site, is out of date. It seems to be stuck on TW 5.1.0, but
>> the latest version is TW 5.1.9 apparently. This would be a valuable
>> resource for beginners like me, if only it were up-to-date.
>
>
> Yes... a really great concept there. Hope it is picked up on. Not sure
> about the policy on tw.com for referencing outdated stuff... should be
> discussed actually.
>
>
> I'm looking forward to learning more about TiddlyWiki, as I implement my
>> own offline knowledgebase with it.
>
>
> In spite of the issues you've encountered I can testify it is an
> incredible piece of software. There is much to learn so stick to it.
>
>
> <:-)
>
>
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