hi Julio, thanks for the feedback, it's nice to know that people use tiddlyclip. Feedback like this is invaluable as it enables me to see what needs to be improved/added. - I have added comments below.
On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 11:07:01 PM UTC, Julio Cantarero wrote: > > Hi BJ, > > Thank you very much for the TiddlyClip TW5 plugin and FF addon. I use them > very often to capture news to my TW when browsing around. > > Since you were also asking about particular uses, I also tried a few > months ago to use TW5 + TiddlyClip to create a web notebook for studying > vocabulary of foreign languages. The goal was to easily create new > vocabulary entries in a TW5 thanks to TiddlyClip, and then use other TW5 > features to treat these entries as flashcards to support studying them. I > didn't get to finish it, but I found TiddlyClip was very flexible. I was > even capable of creating new tiddlers and renaming them, as well as create > and delete tiddler fields (I have uploaded a copy of the latest status > here: http://juliocantarero.github.io/TW5-LanguageStudyNotebook/ . It is > not fully working though) > > Regarding suggestions, I would have never dared, but since you asked :-) > > - In the documentation, it took me a while to realize that there are > tags and modes settings (table columns) both at Category (operation) and > Rule level. Modes at Category level are BrowserConfigModes, which is > different than Rule modes. > > As I wrote tiddlyclip I fully understand how it works, so I really need feedback on what is not clear - I will make this more clear in the documentation. > > - > - I tried to transclude a tiddler in the tags column at Category > level, using {{TiddlerName}} but it did not work. I think I read somewhere > in the plugin documentation that the {{ }} option should work. It works in > the body column. The purpose of this was to be able to tag clips from > different sessions with different identifiers, like lesson N or subjects, > etc. > > There is only this type of flexibility in the rules (I need to add this to the documentation ) so you would have to use the tag entry there for this function. > > - And if I may: I guess there is a reason for it, but I found that the > syntax of the substitution expressions and macros was complex and rigid. I > guess I was stretching the use of TiddlyClip, or missed an easiest way to > collect information in multiple passes from a web page. The only option I > could think of to pass structured information to TW5 (I mean a vocabulary > entry with term, definition, examples, pronuntiation, etc.) was tiddler > fields. > > Your language study application is very interesting. Like you say the basic tiddlyclip operation is to select some text and clip the selection into tiddler(s) fields. It is also possible to clip the contents of the clipboard using the @clip variable, so one can copy some text to the clipboard, then highlight some text and clip both to tiddlers. To clip more selections on the page (other than using multiple clip actions as you have done) either requires using regular expressions or writing macros. It is possible to highlight multiple selections on a page (using the highlight rule), then select all of the page's text and clip that through selection macros (that would need to written - this is not difficult), eg @Selected#1(@web), @Selected#2(@web) etc. For the next release I may expand macro to take multiple arguments to support functions like @Selected(#1,@web). My choice of syntax for Tiddlyclip was constrained to be usable with wikitext, which restricted the syntax that it could use for its template braces (of the syntax compatible with wikitext I thought that '((*' '*))' would standout in the middle the wikitext. All tiddlyclip logic had to be put inside these braces. I will try and add some literal numbers and strings to the future release). > > - > > Regards, > > Julio > > El martes, 26 de enero de 2016, 16:19:16 (UTC+1), BJ escribió: >> >> Hi all, >> I am working on necessary changes to tiddlyclip in order support future >> versions of firefox. As I am current focused on tiddlyclip, this would be a >> good time to let me know of anything that you think could be improved or >> added to tiddlyclip or its documentation, or maybe you have a particular >> use or setup to share that could be added to tiddlyclip's website? >> >> all the best >> >> BJ >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ab1b0661-7dd7-455a-a174-b16205828c80%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
