Hi BJ,
While defining new rules for TiddlyClip, and I have bumped into a
characteristic of TiddlyClip's #variables: the scope of a #variable is
limited to the operations run inside the tiddler referenced in the 'Fields
modifiers' column.
Would it be possible to extend the scope of #variables so that their values
can be passed across Rules in the same operation?
If so, I would be able to reuse values across different Tiddlers that I
create with a single TC click (category). I think this would make the rules
syntax more flexible. I do not know if extending the scope could cause
other problems/risks to TC itself.
I must confess that I have tried to do this myself in your code (commenting
out //table['#']={}; in all instances in tidpaste.js
<https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip-plugin/blob/master/common/tidpaste.js>
but the first one), but I did not manage to reuse #variables across Rule
tiddlers with just these changes.
Thank you,
Julio
El lunes, 1 de febrero de 2016, 12:16:03 (UTC+1), BJ escribió:
>
> hi Julio,
> thanks for the feedback, it's nice to know that people use tiddlyclip.
> Feedback like this is invaluable as it enables me to see what needs to be
> improved/added. - I have added comments below.
>
> On Sunday, January 31, 2016 at 11:07:01 PM UTC, Julio Cantarero wrote:
>>
>> Hi BJ,
>>
>> Thank you very much for the TiddlyClip TW5 plugin and FF addon. I use
>> them very often to capture news to my TW when browsing around.
>>
>> Since you were also asking about particular uses, I also tried a few
>> months ago to use TW5 + TiddlyClip to create a web notebook for studying
>> vocabulary of foreign languages. The goal was to easily create new
>> vocabulary entries in a TW5 thanks to TiddlyClip, and then use other TW5
>> features to treat these entries as flashcards to support studying them. I
>> didn't get to finish it, but I found TiddlyClip was very flexible. I was
>> even capable of creating new tiddlers and renaming them, as well as create
>> and delete tiddler fields (I have uploaded a copy of the latest status
>> here: http://juliocantarero.github.io/TW5-LanguageStudyNotebook/ . It is
>> not fully working though)
>>
>> Regarding suggestions, I would have never dared, but since you asked :-)
>>
>> - In the documentation, it took me a while to realize that there are
>> tags and modes settings (table columns) both at Category (operation) and
>> Rule level. Modes at Category level are BrowserConfigModes, which is
>> different than Rule modes.
>>
>> As I wrote tiddlyclip I fully understand how it works, so I really need
> feedback on what is not clear - I will make this more clear in the
> documentation.
>
>>
>> -
>> - I tried to transclude a tiddler in the tags column at Category
>> level, using {{TiddlerName}} but it did not work. I think I read
>> somewhere
>> in the plugin documentation that the {{ }} option should work. It works
>> in
>> the body column. The purpose of this was to be able to tag clips from
>> different sessions with different identifiers, like lesson N or subjects,
>> etc.
>>
>> There is only this type of flexibility in the rules (I need to add this
> to the documentation ) so you would have to use the tag entry there for
> this function.
>
>>
>> - And if I may: I guess there is a reason for it, but I found that
>> the syntax of the substitution expressions and macros was complex and
>> rigid. I guess I was stretching the use of TiddlyClip, or missed an
>> easiest
>> way to collect information in multiple passes from a web page. The only
>> option I could think of to pass structured information to TW5 (I mean a
>> vocabulary entry with term, definition, examples, pronuntiation, etc.)
>> was
>> tiddler fields.
>>
>> Your language study application is very interesting. Like you say the
> basic tiddlyclip operation is to select some text and clip the selection
> into tiddler(s) fields. It is also possible to clip the contents of the
> clipboard using the @clip variable, so one can copy some text to the
> clipboard, then highlight some text and clip both to tiddlers. To clip more
> selections on the page (other than using multiple clip actions as you have
> done) either requires using regular expressions or writing macros. It is
> possible to highlight multiple selections on a page (using the highlight
> rule), then select all of the page's text and clip that through selection
> macros (that would need to written - this is not difficult), eg
> @Selected#1(@web), @Selected#2(@web) etc.
>
> For the next release I may expand macro to take multiple arguments to
> support functions like @Selected(#1,@web).
>
> My choice of syntax for Tiddlyclip was constrained to be usable with
> wikitext, which restricted the syntax that could be used for its template
> braces (of the syntax compatible with wikitext I thought that '((*' '*))'
> would standout in the middle the wikitext. All tiddlyclip logic had to be
> put inside these braces. I will try and add some literal numbers and
> strings to the future release).
>
>>
>> -
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Julio
>>
>> El martes, 26 de enero de 2016, 16:19:16 (UTC+1), BJ escribió:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am working on necessary changes to tiddlyclip in order support future
>>> versions of firefox. As I am current focused on tiddlyclip, this would be a
>>> good time to let me know of anything that you think could be improved or
>>> added to tiddlyclip or its documentation, or maybe you have a particular
>>> use or setup to share that could be added to tiddlyclip's website?
>>>
>>> all the best
>>>
>>> BJ
>>>
>>
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