PS I posted somewhere on the group a link to this : https://github.com/Tonejs/Tone.js
If there was an integration, TW could have a musical aspect. A "patch" could be generated from TW data, change count, number of tiddlers, number of tags ... etc etc Anyway-- it would be generative and show TW's capacity as a generative tool Alex On 9 February 2016 at 11:50, Alex Hough <r.a.ho...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jeremy, > > The post chimes with me, replace tidal with TiddlyWiki to gain a fair > impression of my position. (It is a glorious text isn't it?) > > I also like the idea of TW being in a tradition of generative tools, > there is an opening for a generative hypertext tool. Plugins like Tobia's > random tiddler and make tiddler point towards a future where TW could be > obviously a generative hypertext tool. > > My personal favourite exponent of generative systems is Brian Eno. I sense > that generative systems "had their time" and can appear deeply uncool, like > progressive rock and trippy fractals. But I also sense that they are coming > back. > > *Flow* > > Yesterday on the radio [1] someone was talking about video games, > technology and "flow" [2], for me TW delivers a learning curve which > delivers a flow state for many people. You can start of my drawing a > picture and making an interactive story (like my 6 year old) and you could > end up trying to understand what a quine and reading about the philosophy > of the quine. > > I like to see TW in the tradition of Leheman's zetlekasten [4] and of > Ashby's card index. Interlinked notes become part of the system one uses > for thinking. > > The name Osmosoft pretty much hit the nail on the head for me. It alludes > to biological computing, a strand of computing history with which Ashby (I > psychologist by training) was closely associated. > > TW is a tool and a meta tool for itself and for thinking in general. > > *Lambda* > > In Manchester there is an event called Lambda lounge: i went a few times. > It's interrupting to note that Tidal is "is embedded in the Haskell > language". After the event, I spoke to a chap working for the BBC in the > computing division (we have them up in Manchester now) > > > Does TW follow a similar programming paradigm? If so it may attract > attention from the lambda people. It seems to me this is a good direction > for computing to move in. And of course, that is purely a hunch: I am not a > specialist and have a dangerous little knowledge about the subject which > opens up the possibilities for creating useful and not so useful errors in > logic. > > *Téléologie et fonctions biologiques* > > > I wish I could understand Albero's stuff here : > http://tesis.tiddlyspot.com/ > > > *Meta hangout?* > > > Lets have a meta hangout! > > Alex > > [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06zqn0v > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology) > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard_Van_Orman_Quine > [4] http://takingnotenow.blogspot.co.uk/2007/12/luhmanns-zettelkasten.html > [5] > http://takingnotenow.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/w-ross-ashbys-journals-and-index-cards.html > [6] http://www.lambdalounge.org.uk/ > [7] http://tidal.lurk.org/ > > On 8 February 2016 at 14:07, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy.rus...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I was struck by how these rather nicely expressed words might equally >> apply to the experience of using TiddlyWiki. It’s actually somebody talking >> about a specialised programming language for "live coding” musical >> performances: >> >> > Tidal is an invitation, a map with many areas marked "here be >> dragons..." It's >> > a master carpenter's tool kit, but, also a heap of unorganized Legos. >> Tidal is >> > a playground where both discovery and questions arise simultaneously. >> It's an >> > intriguing, frustrating mute, a sly cipher, a breathing mandala, a dose >> of >> > friendly venom. It's a supreme blank slate, a piece of graph paper with >> a Z >> > axis. A series of amusements and also wretched dead-ends. Tidal is 101 >> > unexpectedly popping balloons, a lucid dream. It is a bicycle that once >> you >> > learn to ride it, reveals that it can FLY. >> > >> > Tidal is the thing I think about almost more often than anything else. >> It is >> > impressive enough to sufficiently motivate an old man who yells at >> clouds to >> > learn completely new things (writing code) and learn more about things >> ignored >> > thus far (music fundamentals). >> > >> > Tidal is amazing: I don't know what it is. >> >> Source: http://lurk.org/groups/tidal/messages/post/54YnfgMDakbh7KgPG05Vc2 >> >> I like the idea that TiddlyWiki is part of a tradition of tools that have >> the quality of being “generative”: they are meta-tools let you build other, >> specialised tools for the task at hand. Other examples would be Microsoft >> Access and Apple’s Hypercard. >> >> I think it’s that quality that gives rise to the hall-of-mirrors >> sensation of dizzying possibility that has become familiar as people talk >> about their experience of using TiddlyWiki. >> >> What do you think? Does TiddlyWiki feel like that to you? Are there other >> tools you’ve used that have the same quality? Are there situations where >> “here be dragons” might scare people off? >> >> Best wishes >> >> Jeremy. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1EC121B7-AF39-44C4-BD9B-874DBB5E6586%40gmail.com >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. 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