Yes, personally, I definitely got that feeling the first time I saw TiddlyWiki. For what it's worth, I remember HyperCard, and I think TW appeals to a similar sort of user even though the things it builds are different.
TW has a really nice on-ramp because it has a few simple and obvious use-cases, such as note-taking and journalling. I guess those were also example uses of HyperCard, but not trivial to set up, and not what most stacks I remember were about. The consistent volume of feature requests on these mailing lists over the past years is a testament that TW tempts people to imagine uses. Irene On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 12:12 PM Alex Hough <[email protected]> wrote: > PS > > I posted somewhere on the group a link to this : > https://github.com/Tonejs/Tone.js > > If there was an integration, TW could have a musical aspect. A "patch" > could be generated from TW data, change count, number of tiddlers, number > of tags ... etc etc > > Anyway-- it would be generative and show TW's capacity as a generative tool > > Alex > > On 9 February 2016 at 11:50, Alex Hough <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Jeremy, >> >> The post chimes with me, replace tidal with TiddlyWiki to gain a fair >> impression of my position. (It is a glorious text isn't it?) >> >> I also like the idea of TW being in a tradition of generative tools, >> there is an opening for a generative hypertext tool. Plugins like Tobia's >> random tiddler and make tiddler point towards a future where TW could be >> obviously a generative hypertext tool. >> >> My personal favourite exponent of generative systems is Brian Eno. I >> sense that generative systems "had their time" and can appear deeply >> uncool, like progressive rock and trippy fractals. But I also sense that >> they are coming back. >> >> *Flow* >> >> Yesterday on the radio [1] someone was talking about video games, >> technology and "flow" [2], for me TW delivers a learning curve which >> delivers a flow state for many people. You can start of my drawing a >> picture and making an interactive story (like my 6 year old) and you could >> end up trying to understand what a quine and reading about the philosophy >> of the quine. >> >> I like to see TW in the tradition of Leheman's zetlekasten [4] and of >> Ashby's card index. Interlinked notes become part of the system one uses >> for thinking. >> >> The name Osmosoft pretty much hit the nail on the head for me. It alludes >> to biological computing, a strand of computing history with which Ashby (I >> psychologist by training) was closely associated. >> >> TW is a tool and a meta tool for itself and for thinking in general. >> >> *Lambda* >> >> In Manchester there is an event called Lambda lounge: i went a few times. >> It's interrupting to note that Tidal is "is embedded in the Haskell >> language". After the event, I spoke to a chap working for the BBC in the >> computing division (we have them up in Manchester now) >> >> >> Does TW follow a similar programming paradigm? If so it may attract >> attention from the lambda people. It seems to me this is a good direction >> for computing to move in. And of course, that is purely a hunch: I am not a >> specialist and have a dangerous little knowledge about the subject which >> opens up the possibilities for creating useful and not so useful errors in >> logic. >> >> *Téléologie et fonctions biologiques* >> >> >> I wish I could understand Albero's stuff here : >> http://tesis.tiddlyspot.com/ >> >> >> *Meta hangout?* >> >> >> Lets have a meta hangout! >> >> Alex >> >> [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06zqn0v >> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(psychology) >> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard_Van_Orman_Quine >> [4] >> http://takingnotenow.blogspot.co.uk/2007/12/luhmanns-zettelkasten.html >> [5] >> http://takingnotenow.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/w-ross-ashbys-journals-and-index-cards.html >> [6] http://www.lambdalounge.org.uk/ >> [7] http://tidal.lurk.org/ >> >> On 8 February 2016 at 14:07, Jeremy Ruston <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I was struck by how these rather nicely expressed words might equally >>> apply to the experience of using TiddlyWiki. It’s actually somebody talking >>> about a specialised programming language for "live coding” musical >>> performances: >>> >>> > Tidal is an invitation, a map with many areas marked "here be >>> dragons..." It's >>> > a master carpenter's tool kit, but, also a heap of unorganized Legos. >>> Tidal is >>> > a playground where both discovery and questions arise simultaneously. >>> It's an >>> > intriguing, frustrating mute, a sly cipher, a breathing mandala, a >>> dose of >>> > friendly venom. It's a supreme blank slate, a piece of graph paper >>> with a Z >>> > axis. A series of amusements and also wretched dead-ends. Tidal is 101 >>> > unexpectedly popping balloons, a lucid dream. It is a bicycle that >>> once you >>> > learn to ride it, reveals that it can FLY. >>> > >>> > Tidal is the thing I think about almost more often than anything else. >>> It is >>> > impressive enough to sufficiently motivate an old man who yells at >>> clouds to >>> > learn completely new things (writing code) and learn more about things >>> ignored >>> > thus far (music fundamentals). >>> > >>> > Tidal is amazing: I don't know what it is. >>> >>> Source: >>> http://lurk.org/groups/tidal/messages/post/54YnfgMDakbh7KgPG05Vc2 >>> >>> I like the idea that TiddlyWiki is part of a tradition of tools that >>> have the quality of being “generative”: they are meta-tools let you build >>> other, specialised tools for the task at hand. Other examples would be >>> Microsoft Access and Apple’s Hypercard. >>> >>> I think it’s that quality that gives rise to the hall-of-mirrors >>> sensation of dizzying possibility that has become familiar as people talk >>> about their experience of using TiddlyWiki. >>> >>> What do you think? Does TiddlyWiki feel like that to you? Are there >>> other tools you’ve used that have the same quality? 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