Hi Danielo, Hi Jed.
I think it depends on the Use-Case whether you need mobile.
Working on my actual project I am mostly sitting behind my desktop,
though I would really like to have a failsave way to type in Ideas into
my phone.
For my other TWC-project I really would love a better mobile Interface.
I proposed to adapt a version of mmenu(http://mmenu.frebsite.nl/) some
time ago in this list, because I think the key for mobile Menus is
drilldown-navigation. Alas I failed to do it myself...
Jan
Am 26.09.2016 um 21:30 schrieb Jed Carty:
While I personally find most mobile devices (smart phones in
particular) to be abominations I do think that you have plenty of
valid points. Mainly in the places where the low-powered computing
aspects are relevant. That said I do think that the practice that I
have seen pushed so hard by many large tech companies of removing
functionality form products because it doesn't work on the current
paradigm of mobile interface is short sighted to the point of being
actively harmful to the future by teaching a generation of technology
users that if you can't do something on a 5 inch touch screen than you
can't do it. The short version is that I think it is good that people
are developing for a new thing, I think that it is horrible that
people are actively advocating dropping any alternative in favor of
something that has been deliberately designed to be limited. But that
is a rant for another time.
I can not effectively use touch screens, I don't feel that in general
they can be used effectively in the way that other interface paradigms
can be, but they tend to be unresponsive and inconsistent when I try
to use them. It may be something about my fingers. This probably
colors my view of the subject. But because of this the only
experiences I get are a powerful desktop, a variety of raspberry
pi-based computers and a 14" tablet with an active stylus. So I have
next to no idea what on my site does or doesn't work on anything
smaller than that. I imagine that anything with tables is going to be
horrible and the menu at the top is more or less unusable on most
phones or smaller tablets. Recently, because of my work with the
raspberry pis and embedded computing, I have been paying much more
attention to computational load, and I am going to be working on
creating some distributed mesh networks which is going to make
limiting throughput important. I am hoping to use the pouchdb things
you have made to make everything work better.
I would like to add more to tiddlywiki to help create things that can
be easily used on a variety of screens. In my opinion the problem is
that we (as in developers/designers in general) haven't worked out
rules for what works and what doesn't yet. The general reaction being
pushed is, as you said, "mobile first, forget about desktop focus on
mobile, mobile rules!" which ignores anything other than mobile and on
general principle I can't support something that intentionally limits
people. I want something that works as well on a mobile device as on a
desktop, but as long as the accepted way to do that is to cripple the
desktop version I am not going to be involved. I am not very good at
UI design in general and I haven't had much success and I am trying to
get some of the designer people I work with to start focusing on the
topic. Nothing has come from it yet though.
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