Are you saying that you want a special TW app? Android (and IOS) apps are 
built on frameworks that are completely different from the world of 
HTML5/CSS/Javascript that powers TW. Facebook, Github, and Twitter have 
separate teams of programmers that can work on the app apart from the 
original. Basically, they have to re-create the look and feel of the 
original app, without actually re-using any code.

It seems to me that it might be possible to borrow the Android code for 
something like TomBoy or SimpleNote (2 open source projects) to make a 
reader/editor for TW notes. But you wouldn't have all the customizable 
features like lists, macros, table-of-contents, CSS themes, etc. The 
question is, would anyone be happy with a TW that didn't do all those 
things? Or is it the extra things that make TW so popular?

If its the HTML5 experience that you want, then it seems that its up to 
individual users to customize their TW to match whatever size screen 
they're on. In this regard, TW5 on AndTidWiki works better. On Firefox, TW5 
doesn't seem to know about the edges of the screen and and lines continue 
past the edge without reformatting.

Mark



On Monday, September 26, 2016 at 9:51:47 AM UTC-7, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> This is both a reflection, a touch of attention and a desperate call to 
> all the users that feels like me, if there is any.
>
> Three years ago when I first discovered tiddlywiki I found both, 
> TWClassing and TW5. I decided to go for TW5 because it looked much better 
> on my mobile, and that gave me a feeling of future-proof software. As 
> opposed to TWClassic, which remind me to the first mobile web experiences: 
> an unreadable bird view of a page that required to zoom and scroll all the 
> time. So, as I said, despite it's lacks and faults I go for tw 5.0.5
>
> After three years things haven't evolved for mobile users, or at least not 
> in the good way. The only community that grows is that one that doesn't 
> care about mobile, which is presumably the same that didn't care about it 
> on TWClassic before, but now on TW5. The only issues that are discussed and 
> the new features that are implemented doesn't care about mobile, it doesn't 
> matter, it is just take for granted, what we have is good enough. 
>
> I read this forum mostly from mobile, and when someone makes an 
> announcement, or posts a link to any new good stuff my first impression is 
> the one that I have from my phone. If I'm unable to use it comfortably on 
> mobile I usually close that tab and forget about it.
>
> In a world that is moving to "mobile first, forget about desktop focus on 
> mobile, mobile rules!" experiences, tiddlywiki community is moving on the 
> opposite direction. Twitter, Facebook and Github are examples of how doing 
> things well: If I add their page to my home screen I can't distinguish it 
> from a native app.
>
> Just to mention some examples, Jed Carty 
> <http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/> has a wiki that seems to hate mobile 
> screens, Mat's magic <http://twaddle.tiddlyspot.com/#TWaddle:TWaddle> 
> seems to be restricted to desktop browsers, Cardo <http://cardo.wiki> 
> requires so much horizontal scroll that I forget about what was at the left 
> side when I reach the other side of the wiki. I fought to death with Felix 
> to convince him to provide an alternative way of displaying Tiddlymap's 
> graphs, because on his extra-extra wide screen it was just fine to put 
> everything on the sidebar. A couple of alerts is enough to fill the 
> entire screen <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1743>, 
> popups are used everywhere like they were a good idea, and the new search 
> mechanism on a popup is just *a bad joke*. Most of the users here don't 
> see any advantage on using NoteSelf because syncing an entire file of 
> *6MB* on their high bandwidth internet connections is not even 
> noticeable. And those are just some random examples on an entire sea of 
> issues for mobile users.
>
> I would ask to those tiddlywiki wizards that do not want to care about 
> mobile to totally disable their creations on mobile, because the lack of a 
> feature is better than a bad experience using it. Github for example 
> doesn't have all the features on their mobile version.
>
> Does anybody subscribe to any of the things that I said above? Am I the 
> only interested on using tiddlywiki on my mobile phone? I want to know this 
> because it maybe it will be easier to leave tiddlywiki and go with any of 
> the products that cares about mobile than fighting the entire community.
>
>

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